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Hannemannn
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I suspect LD, and my doctor also thought that its

possible. Because he wasnt sure, he ordered to me

cortisone and doxycycline. Doxycycline for bacter

infection and cortisone for other kind of infection.

I`ve heard that cortisone and LD are very bad

combination. Am I right? Is it safe to eat

cortisone if I suspect LD??


I`ve heard, that because of cortisone LD might

become chronic?


Thanks a lot if someone can answer to this!

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You should not take cortisone if you have Lyme unless it's a life or death situation. Cortisone can make the Lyme worse. I would not take it.

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Cortisone is not anti-infective but typically used to reduce inflammation and depress the immune response (a very dangerous move with lyme).

There are many other ways to reduce inflammation. Magnesium, Fish or Krill Oil, Curcumin top this list. Stinging Nettle, too, is very valuable to dampen the cytokine storm that occurs with lyme.

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http://www.lymenet.de/literatur/steroids.htm

Antibiotics and Steroids - by John Drulle, M.D.


Excerpts:
. . .

We have seen literally dozens of patients with Lyme who were initially treated with steroids who reported a dramatic worsening rather than improvement as would be expected. Dr. Joseph Burrascano has coined the expression, ' Steroid Disasters, ' to describe these patients.

. . .

Corticosteroids can last in the body for months, usually around 6 months. In many bacterial infections such as LD, damage can be done.

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http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/B_guidelines_12_17_08.pdf


Dr. Burrascano's Treatment Guidelines (2008)

Excerpts:

From page 4:

. . . More severe illness also results from other causes of weakened defenses, such as from severe stress, immunosuppressant medications, and severe intercurrent illnesses.


This is why steroids and other immunosuppressive medications are absolutely contraindicated in Lyme. This also includes intraarticular steroids. . . .

From page 12:


. . . More evidence has accumulated indicating the severe detrimental effects of the concurrent use of immunosuppressants including steroids in the patient with active B. burgdorferi infection.


Never give steroids or any other immunosuppressant to any patient who may even remotely be suffering from Lyme, or serious, permanent damage may result, especially if given for anything greater than a short course.


If immunosuppressive therapy is absolutely necessary, then potent antibiotic treatment should begin at least 48 hours prior to the immunosuppressants.

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Right.. cortisone is NOT anti-infective.. just anti-inflammatory. It would be far better to take aspirin!!! (not to say the two are equal!!)

You don't want this Lyme infection to go deeper by taking cortisone.

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Hannemannn
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THANKS A LOT! Thats what I thought.

Hm... Sometimes it feels like doctors are trying

to kill me on purpose [Big Grin]

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Some people need a small amount of hydrocortisone (Cortef) to support their adrenals. You may want to talk with your doctor to clarify their instructions.
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Cortisone only treats symptoms, and its bad news. WHat is the Doxycycline dose?
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I take dox 2x100mg daily. I was ordered to take

cortisone


7mg per day during first week, 5mg per day on next

week and 2,5mg on third week. My symptoms are not

that bad that I would need medication which eases

pains. Maybe I should call to my doctor again.

[ 11-14-2009, 10:55 AM: Message edited by: Hannemannn ]

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Hypernatremia is a high blood level of sodium.

Cortisone can trigger hypernatremia as well as other things:

"It may occur rarely in nephrosis, congestive heart failure, and Cushing's disease and after administration of adrenocorticotropic hormone (ACTH), ***cortisone***, or deoxycorticosterone. Normal adult range of serum sodium is 135 to 145 mEq/L."

http://www.answers.com/topic/hypernatremia

Bb is dependent on sodium.

NaCl for motility...for starters.

"It is also interesting that motility of B. burgdorferi requires a high concentration of NaCl

and pH 7.6, which are the normal physiological conditions for interstitial fluids. In any case, our data suggest that chemotaxis may indeed be important for the pathogenesis of B. burgdorferi."

www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=106876

Very very technical, but use your edit key and find Na mentioned.

http://tiny.cc/vmDZh

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Hannemannn
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I called to my doctor, and he said that if you

eat only cortisone, it might be harmful if you

have LD, but if you eat both, antibiotics and

cortisone it`s not harmful. He also said that in

most infections its better to eat both,

antibiotics and cortisone. He said that in long

infection man often get some other dicease

afterwards, so cortisone is for curing that.


He`s not LLMD, but he`s one of the best infection

doctors in Finland. Is he right or not? I havent

heard that anyone alse would have eaten cortisone

during abx treatment.

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