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As much as I detest getting any kind of shot or vaccine, I am seriously thinking about a Shingles shot.
I'm seeing too many people with severely painful shingles extending from the head to the eyes (two recent people), legs (two people),and around one side to the back (most people).
I live in an over 55 community and it seems to be hitting lots of folks here, including my husband, and his pain lasted a while.
So, we both are thinking we should get one.
If anyone knows of anyone who has Lyme and has gotten the Shingles shot and has side effects, please could you post that information, and it may help me plus others make the correct decision.
I don't ever get a flu shot, and I cringed at having to get a Tetanus shot years ago due to a dog bite, so I'm really not liking the possibility of a Shingles shot....but, still thinking I should???
Thanks
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Im going to have it next week. Im 65 and have been diabled due to the lyme vacine for years so vacines terify me but so does living with Shingles so Ive let myself let go of my paranoia and I will try and let you know how it goes if I can find your post.
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A guy in my town got it and it damaged his nervous system and entire body, left him sick for a year until it killed him finally. Don't get ANY vaccine in the U.S. No single doctor vaccinates themselves or their kids why would you. Jock Doubleday has offered $200,000 to any M.D. or pharmaceutical CEO that will drink the additives used in our vaccines for years now and no one has taken his offer. And that's just drinking them, getting them injected directly into your bloodstream is much worse.
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Data on incidence rates of shingles might help patients who are undecided about vaccination.
Summary Although the recently licensed shingles vaccine is recommended for older people (age, ≥60), some patients ask, "How likely am I to get shingles?" before deciding whether to be vaccinated. To address that question, Mayo Clinic researchers analyzed a comprehensive database covering all Olmsted County, Minnesota, residents and reviewed the records of adults in whom shingles were diagnosed.
From 1996 to 2001, 1669 cases of shingles were diagnosed. Half the patients were 60 or older; only about 8% were immunosuppressed. The overall incidence rate (adjusted to reflect the age and sex distribution of the U.S. population) was 3.6 per 1000 person-years, but the rate increased with age: For example, it was about 2 per 1000 person-years among adults younger than 50, and increased to 5, 7, 10, and 12 cases per 1000 person-years among adults in their 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s, respectively. About 18% of patients reported pain for at least 1 month, 4% experienced ocular complications, and 3% had neurologic complications. The rate of recurrent shingles within 3 years was 1.4%.
Comment Assuming that these data reasonably represent the U.S. population, they enable us to provide estimates for patients. For example, patients in their 70s could be told that their risk for shingles is roughly 1% during the next year (or 10% during the next 10 years). Such information �� combined with the 50% efficacy reported for the vaccine �� might be useful for patients who are undecided about vaccination.
��� Allan S. Brett, MD )
It tells the likelihood of a person getting shingles at any particular age (likelihood increases, especially over age 60) and says how effective the vaccine is.
Your chance of getting shingles is not high, and the vaccine is only 50% effective according to this article.
Of course, if you live to age 85, you can have up to a 50% chance of getting it. I read that on another site.
TF
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Here's an exerpt from a New York Times article dated today that says who should NOT get the shingles vaccine:
Vaccines for Shingles
In May 2006, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration licensed the herpes zoster vaccine (Zostavax) for the prevention of shingles. The vaccine can reportedly cut the incidence of shingles in half for adults over age 60, but its effectiveness declines with increasing age.
Recommendations for the Vaccine in Adults.
All adults age 60 or older should get a single dose of the herpes zoster vaccine, regardless of whether they have previously had shingles.
The following people should not receive the herpes zoster vaccine:
Anyone who has a weakened immune system due to HIV/AIDS or cancer of the lymph, bone, or blood, or due to treatments such as radiation or long-term corticosteroids
Women who are pregnant, or anyone who is in close contact with a pregnant woman who has not had chickenpox
Children -- they should receive only the chickenpox vaccine
(I tried to post the link, but LymeNet rules on acceptable links won't allow it.)
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lifeline the point to Jock Doubledays challenge is to show people that if you're doctors won't even drink the additives from a vaccine for $200,000 then they aren't actually getting those additives injected directly into their bloodstream, hence they aren't getting vaccinated themselves. If there was nothing poisonous going into vaccines then they'd drink the additives (because then it'd just be saline or something) instead our vaccines contain, aluminum, mercury, formaldehyde and other poisons, but most people don't realize it.
And you should never listen to anything the FDA says because the are simply former execs from the vaccine manufacturers that now take bribes from their industry. Of course they recommend everyone over 60 gets the vaccine, they were paid by the company that makes the vaccine to say so. It's not their problem if you get sick or die, our government under Reagan made it illegal to sue any pharmaceutical company regarding vaccines. So once you agree to get a vaccine, you're taking all those poisons into your system and it's not their problem you were dumb enough to pay them for poisons (thing is most people aren't dumb, they've just been kept from the truth).
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TF, thanks for the info. That was good reading.
pamoisondelune, I also do know many people that have gotten it and did not have any adverse reaction. Thanks.
pryorka, in doing my own research regarding the Shingles vaccine, I read that it does not contain Thimerosal (mercury preservative), which was removed from vaccines in 2001. Jock D's website indicates that it does. However, it is still disturbing about this shot it being a live virus. I am still mulling this over in my head.
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I had the vaccine on Monday around lunch time and this is Wed. around lunch time and I dont notice any difference in my being at all so for me it was ok. Medicare will not pay for it and most insurances wont either so make sure you check it out before you get it because you will probably have to pay for it.
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Be careful reading claims from the vaccine manufacturers. They trick you with the wording. They'll say they've removed thimersol from the vaccines, which they did, just not all of it, not even half of it. So there is still thimersol in those vaccines. When the contents of these vaccines are still tested thimersol is always detected and then they will explain that it's only trace amounts so it's negligible now, yet it's still more than the EPA deems healthy to have even sitting in your work environment.
And don't forget that mercury is only part of the problem, the vaccines still have all the aluminum, formaldehyde, and antifreeze that they've been using.
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Thanks sofy, for your response. After debating and debating in my head whether or not to get the Vaccine, I had decided getting Shingles would be so much worse, especially, if pain lingers as I have seen in some people.
Therefore, I got the shot three days ago, and so far, have had no adverse affects.
pryorka, I realize the shot has chemicals and probably other stuff I don't even know about, but I figured it couldn't be worse than having Lyme and enduring many, many months of heavy abx.
Nevertheless, I was torn having to make this decision, being so against vaccines/shots as a whole.
Thank you for all your responses.
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