richedie
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Reading his guidelines I notice B says low fat is essential. Because I avoid a lot fruit, some grains, all refined food, and take mepron....I consume quite a bit of fat because I am always trying to keep my calorie count high. Heck I can eat 200 grams of fat in one sitting with a bag of nuts. In the past, I could keep the calories up eating way more in the way of grains. With mepron, I take at least 15 grams of fat.
Now, non of this is saturated fat or trans fat, but still. Anyone else have concerns about this? How does Dr B even know this? Makes me wonder.
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Keebler
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- You can still have plenty of good fats on a low-fat diet. "Low fat" usually more so relates to avoiding overly cooked saturated animal fat (similar to the way "low carb" usually refers to no SIMPLE carbs).
Just for all those reading, some of whom may be all new to healthful eating: hydrogenated oils and fake fats are totally off limits. Totally. It's about good fats.
Regarding animal fat, a bit of that can be very helpful - but best from organic sources as animal fat holds all the chemicals from fertilizers, pesticides, forced antibiotics, etc. You don't want that.
I can go through some nuts (cashews are the love of MY life) as an on-going event as they are just so good. I have to put a about 1/2 cup in a small dish and leave the canister back in the fridge (during summer). I focus on eating one at a time, waiting until that's all faded before the next one. That stretches the "event" of it.
A handful of nuts is considered a serving, though, not a bag. And be sure they are raw. If roasted or toasted, it is best to toast/roast yourself immediately before eating as the oils get old very quickly and then are dangerous for us.
It's very easy to toast/roast nuts in the oven - or in a small skillet on the stove. It takes just a minute. Do only what will be eaten right then.
Search out how many grams of fat we need each day. Look at several top sites and then you can best determine your needs and portions.
Some need more than others, though. So, there is a range, depending upon body type and genetics.
As I deal with seizures, my brain needs a good amount of top oils - but I still can't eat all the cashews I'd like to eat as the calories really creep up with that.
A tsp. of my fish oil is 5 grams of fat. A TBSP of coconut oil is 14 grams of fat. Even at the low-fat range of Dr. Oz (link below) there is still a lot more room for good fats to even reach the low fat number. For the other diets, that amount is increased, even doubled in one plan. -
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gwb
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I started getting better when I ate fats like coconut oil, grass fed organic meats, organic chicken WITH skin on, butter, whole milk (or goat milk yogurt, etc.
Natural, organic vegetables with organic grass fed meat and butter with coconut has been a great addition to my Jernigan Protocol. Basically, what I follow is the Weston Price diet http://www.westonaprice.org/
Dr. Ron Schmidt, who is a naturopathic doctor with Lyme disease used to be a vegetarian until he studied Weston Price. He switched over to this way of eating including drinking whole raw milk and eating raw butter along with specific supplements. He claims this is what keeps his Lyme under control.
50% carbs 30% fat 20% protein -
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richedie
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Keebler,
I wish Dr. B would make that clear in the guidelines to avoid confusion. I was assuming that but wanted to be sure. I am still going to bring this up with my LLMD.
So, are you saying Dr. B is only referring to avoiding somple carbs? It seems more he wants us to avoid most everything but carbs found in veggies and a few fruits.
I have a different opinion on animal fat, but I don't want to argue.
Understand that 6,000 calories a day for me is normal...so if I eat some nuts....it's a whole bag. We were in New York and I needed a quick snack an hour or so before dinner so I bought a back of no sugar trail mix - 800 calories and loads of fat. My one concern is keep the correct Omega 3 to 6 ratio in tact.
The best I have ever felt with the most energy and the strongest I have ever been in my life was during the period I was a vegetarian and I will eventually go back to being a vegetarian once I get through these dreaded diseases. My nutritionist became interested in helping people with Lyme when she herself cured her Lyme by becoming a raw vegan. I would love to as well, but I need so many calories. I hate meat to the point I want to gag but I am forced to eat it now and it really zaps my enegry.
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Keebler
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- Even a low-carb diet has plenty of room for healthy grains, in moderation.
We need grains, too. Whole grains have nutrients not present in vegetables. Also, the fiber is different from that in vegetables. Our bodies need both.
Quinoa, Red Quinoa and Wild Rice are some of the top choices, and all still fit very nicely with the low to moderate glycemic index intent of Dr. B's guidelines. Red and Black rice varieties also fit in there - just not heaping bowls of the stuff. -
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canefan17
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Numbers Numbers Numbers
Eat real food, that you know is good for you, and the rest will take care of itself.
Our body doesn't work on quantity... it works on quality.
Your health simply can't be calculated.
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