seekhelp
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Just an update...progressing with the Humaworm products. Results so far.
Humaworm general 30-day cleanse = no visible results. Maybe slight improvement. Possible herxing.
Humaworm Gallbladder / Liver Cleanse - 15 days = useless
Humaworm Lung Cleanse - 15 days = useless
Last one will be Humaworm Kidney Cleanse for 15 days..will report.
So far, I'm not impressed by this firm's products. Seem overhyped and do not produce any results. Yeah, maybe perstince pays off after a year, two, etc., but it ain't cheap and a wild guess IMO.
I'm disappointed and hoped for much more given all the glowing reviews on their website on the testimonial section and postings here. I thought about using the in-beween herbs, but why based on other product results? Finances are limited and I'm tired of chasing magic with supplements. It's gets expensive and I'm seriously doubting the effectiveness of all these pills we pop.
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The only one I use is the original Humaworm for parasites. It's been good for me. 90% of parasites are not visible to the naked eye ... the only one of the three I've done that had visible results was the first. I have a die-off the first week or two each time I start one and have improvement afterward.
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seekhelp
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I've had symptoms that I would've thought the liver and lung cleanse would help so I tried Six. I was hoping. I know you're right about visible / non-visible parasites. The humaworm original product seemed to cause air hunger/chest tightness. Herx?
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Why do you think you have parasites, exactly? Why do you think this company's products would to anything at all?
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seekhelp
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Because some posters here say everyone has parasites with Lyme (or 90%). It seems likely based ob my symptoms.
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Seek, the air hunger sounds like a herx. Babesia is a parasite, so it's possible.
I actually started the Humaworm because my LLMD did a test that showed I had a bacterial overgrowth of the intestines. He had me on several herbs that were rather expensive since there were so many of them. When I saw the Humaworm was supposed to work against those same bacteria, I used it instead. The visible parasites were just a bonus.
I also used massive probiotics (VSL#3, Ultra Flora, and Theralac). My intestinal issues were (and still are) a huge problem for me.
Sounds like parasites might have been a smaller piece of the puzzle for you.
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I have had excellent results with the HW parasite cleanse. Hundreds released in stool, and daily seen dead ones in urine, and draining from my uterus attached to blood clumps (not my menstral cycle)
I removed all my amalgams, so after the release of heavy metals, I was more able to fully release the parasites along with candida.
Anyway- you might consider another form of treatment if the Humaworm is not working for you.
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I've been doing the parasite cleanse for 6 wks now...nothing to report and you'd think I am prime canidate.
Horses, dogs, dog trainer... I've done another cleanse yrs ago and again nothing from that either.
Think may do salt/c.
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TF
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I don't see any mention of parasites in Burrascano's lyme treatment guidelines.
I had lyme, babs, and bart and have been symptom-free now for 4 years. I never had any parasite treatment. Neither have my friends who have gotten rid of their lyme.
We all went to Burrascano type doctors.
In fact, I haven't known a single person with lyme disease who had to treat for parasites.
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I had to do 6 months continuos of strong antiparasitic herbs (about 20 capsules a day) a lot of wormwood in the different blends. I then started salt/c and "all hell broke loose"
I had bowls full of parasites/worms pouring out of me for months including 20" worms and strange looking parasites including all the ones pictured on lymephotos.
The herbs set things up, but it was the salt/c that pushed them out. Persistence is THE key. They are master survivalists and cling on to the intestinal wall.
It's a battle, but if you have to keep attacking until they let go,
Gael
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Just like most "remedies", one thing may work for some that won't do much for others. I think the Humaworm product is legitimate and the people that make it are fairly sincere. They don't push their product from what I have seen and it's word of mouth that causes people to try their product, not some extravagant marketing effort.
The Humaworm blend has the main herbal components found in other anti-parasitic cleanses, so it's not some special "snake oil" they are providing. It's natural and inexpensive, so I think it's worth an attempt.
I'm halfway through my first dose of Humaworm. I'm a little bit like Seekhelp where I haven't noticed any big changes. I think I have herxed a little, but no visible worms to note. However, most parasites are going to be too small to detect by the naked eye.
It's reasonable to think most people have parasites. With the crap we ingest and touch on a daily basis, it seems to me it would be hard to prevent. Fortunately for most people, if they do have them their immune systems take care of the issue.
I believe the current Animal Planet series Monsters Inside Me has a regular microbiologist who more or less states parasites are everywhere. While taking care of parasites may not cure a person's Lyme, it's probably a little shortsighted to think that parasites are not in your body.
One doctor that I have read states we are walking microbial soups.
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quote:Originally posted by TF: I don't see any mention of parasites in Burrascano's lyme treatment guidelines.
I had lyme, babs, and bart and have been symptom-free now for 4 years. I never had any parasite treatment. Neither have my friends who have gotten rid of their lyme.
We all went to Burrascano type doctors.
In fact, I haven't known a single person with lyme disease who had to treat for parasites.
Babesiosis is a parasite- but it is treated with antibiotics according to Burrascano, which is why I suggested that antibiotics be used if Humaworm is not effective. Stands to reason that if antibiotics are needed then supplements alone are not going to do the trick. I was never treated for parasites, per say, other than with antibiotics by my LLMD. In fact the "cleansing" process was left up to proper diet with fiber and water water water.
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Babesia is a RED BLOOD CELL PARASITE. That is: it feeds on red blood cells. It is a protozoa
It's not the worm thingys that some people here think they have.
There are parasitic worms in the world. My cats get them from not cooking the mice they eat. You can get them from not fully cooking pork, drinking unsanitary water, living in a 3rd world country, etc.
Then there was this ex-girlfriend of mine... but I digress.
Please don't confuse the term "parasite" when talking about babesia and wormys. They are very different.
(Hmm, Gary WORMSER is one of the main lyme deniers of the IDSA--coincidence???)
Babesia is not successfully treated with typical abx. Atovaquone is what kills these protozoa, just like malaria. Quinine will not work effectively.
I'm becoming pretty knowledgeable about babesia as my battle against it goes into it's 2nd year. Damn, Mepron is expensive!
James
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James, the Humaworm works against more than just the visible parasites, it also works against parasitical bacteria and protozoa as well, that's why it's worth mentioning babesia. I started the Humaworm to kill off bacterial parasites in my gut. The Humaworm also has other herbs that works on parasites in organs, etc.
Babesia is not killed with abx ... it's killed with anti-malarials ...
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The standard treatment regimen for babesiosis is clindamycin and quinine. Although effective, this treatment causes significant adverse reactions including gastroenteritis and tinnitus. Azithromycin and atovaquone represent an alternative combination that has been found effective in animal models of babesial infection. Krause and colleagues performed a prospective, nonblinded, randomized trial to compare the safety and efficacy of these two-drug regimens in adults with babesiosis.
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Thanks for the clarification for ALL of us. I think this is where so much is lost in translation. Too many assumptions going on. It is so easy to hear the word parasite and only think of the gut. No wonder misled patients are disillusioned by cleanses.
quote:Originally posted by JamesNYC: WHOA, hold on there.
Babesia is a RED BLOOD CELL PARASITE. That is: it feeds on red blood cells. It is a protozoa
It's not the worm thingys that some people here think they have.
There are parasitic worms in the world. My cats get them from not cooking the mice they eat. You can get them from not fully cooking pork, drinking unsanitary water, living in a 3rd world country, etc.
Then there was this ex-girlfriend of mine... but I digress.
Please don't confuse the term "parasite" when talking about babesia and wormys. They are very different.
(Hmm, Gary WORMSER is one of the main lyme deniers of the IDSA--coincidence???)
Babesia is not successfully treated with typical abx. Atovaquone is what kills these protozoa, just like malaria. Quinine will not work effectively.
I'm becoming pretty knowledgeable about babesia as my battle against it goes into it's 2nd year. Damn, Mepron is expensive!
James
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Clindamycin (an antibiotic)given in CONJUNCTION with Quinine(an anti malarial) is effective against babesia.
I also agree with six about Humaworm working in various ways against parasites, bacteria and protozoa,
Gael
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James NYC,
There are many ways humans can and do get infected with parasites and worms.
Check out Dr Hulda Clark on the web and also do a search here under parasites and Lyme.
Our vegetation can carry worm and parasite eggs on their leaves. Just eating out in a restuarant can leave you open to being infected with parasites.
It's a big misconception that it's just in Third World Countries.
Gael
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