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I am just wondering in laymans terms why some ppl feel that nosodes are so important when using treatments like photontherapy?
I also understand some people do not think you even need them.
Shouldn't the machine that you are using be able to do its job without nosodes? Just trying to understand why you would even need them or am I missing something?
Thank you in advance. Don't want to start an argument, just want to understand more about nosodes and if I really need them when using the Lightworks or any photontherapy for that matter.
Thanks, Elizabeth
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As I understand, the nosodes essentially provide the instructions to the photons as to what specific job they need to fulfill. So if you use a Borrelia nosode, the photons are then directed to support resolution of a Borrelia issue whereas if you use a heavy metal nosode, that may help support removal of harmful metals.
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Nosodes are extremely important in photon therapy. A nosode can contain a lyme frequency or a babesia frequency depending on the nosode. We'll say you have a nosode with a borrelia frequency.
Imagine your immune system as the sherrif. There are a whole bunch of good guys around, but there are some bad guys to too. Sometimes the immune system can't tell who the bad guys are. In this case lyme. So by putting the frequency outside our bodies we are communicating to our immune system who the bad guys are energetically. So when the sherrif gets the information he goes through all the buildings (cells) to find the bad guys and erradicate them. The photons help the sherrif light up the buildings so he can look around and get everyone of those lymie varments.
Hopefully that explains the process.
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Elisabeth, I already used a machine called Photonwave, that uses pulsed visible light frequencies . I first used it without any nosodes or homeopathy, just to detox and got a major reaction.
When I added heavy metal vials, I also reacted strongly. The difference was that after using vials that were testing, I stopped testing for these metals in a few days, but other heavy metals kept showing up. Then I retreated those and went on.
I guess if I only used general detox mode, I would still be testing for these heavy metals.
I also use green laser on Chinese accupuncture and meridians, and it is relaxing. Without homeopathy. With homeopathy, dr. K. says it's like ingesting it, and even more powerful.
I guess the Bionic was not designed to be using nosodes, but that's what dr. W. is doing.
The photon wave, I suppose, was not designed to use nosodes either (in the past, they didn't use nosodes) but practioners are using them now with success.
I think the effect is different. As Scott and Bob said, if you use nosodes, you focus treatment. Without nosodes, treatment is unfocused, even though there is some therapeutic result.
What is interesting though, is that all these photon + nosode treatments use low dilutions. If my memory is good, dr. K. said that dilutions lower to D12 are the best with green laser. After that, the dilution itself could get damaged with EMRs.
when I see the low dilutions dr. W uses with the 880nm, I guess there could be a correspondance (low dilutions work better with light)? For borrelia, if we treat with ingestable nosodes, we would NEVER ingest such lower potencies like D2, D5... I wouldn't.
I was treated with ingestable nosodes potencies starting from borrelia 30C, but mostly 200C or 200K. Then higher and higher dilutions. Anyway, they didn't cure me!
So there must be more therapeutic effect on lower dilutions when light is involved. It's just all guess though. With the Photon wave, I see the practioner was also using these lower dilutions.
So, not all nosodes are good, I suppose, but lower dilutions seem what practioners are using.
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Another way of looking at solving the problem is in our own environment. While we are dusting in the bedroom, scrape some dust and put it in a vial. Energetically ask if this is a problem to be solved. If it is, you can create your own nosode there are recipes to do it. Sparkle posted a recipe just search for succussion. The following is a link that might be helpful.
Once you have your homemade vial, use energetic testing to determine if it is powerful enough. If not continue to succuss. Once you have the potency, use the light works based on energetic testing. You will find you are detoxing to the limit your body will allow.
With vial use a good LED to remediate the issue.
After dust, it might be pesticides or some chemical. There are many things to test and there are many simple remedies that can be made to detox.
I believe most of us if not all, are sick because we can't detox fast enough. If we could detox fast enough our body would have enough left over to handle our pathogen problems.
LEDs will show themselves to be one of the ultimate detox methods.
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Agree with Bob 100% on treating dust. Also things like saliva, urine, etc. may be helpful.
Also agree that most of us would not be here if we had working detox systems - even if we still had Lyme.
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I haven't gotten to using nosodes with the LightWorks, yet.
I think that infrared light can boost ATP quite dramatically. This may account for some of the healing.
Seems like people are getting good results with the nosodes, too. I think you can do it both ways.
(I've posted some info about this on other threads. You may want to do a search of my posts to see some of the info I posted.)
Bob & Scott were mentioning about what is known as an "auto nosode" (making a homeopathic remedy from your own body secretions). You may want to do a search on Google about it. There are "recipes" for making them if you are interested.
Intracellular ATP Level Increases in Lymphocytes Irradiated with Infrared Laser Light of Wavelength 904 nm
Abstract
Objective: Red and near-infrared laser irradiation is reported to have a range of biological effects on cultured cells and different tissues, leading to the hypothesis that laser light can affect energy metabolism.
Increased adenosine triphosphate (ATP) synthesis has been reported in cultured cells and rat brain tissue after irradiation at 632.8 nm and 830 nm, respectively.
This study investigated whether diode pulsed laser irradiation enhances ATP production in lymphocytes. Materials and Methods:
Aliquots (500 μL) of an extract of cultured lymphocytes of the Molt-4 cell line were irradiated with diode laser light (λ = 904 nm, pulsed mode, 6 kHz frequency) with an average emission power of 10 mW for 60 min.
A Spectra Physics M404 power meter was used to measure light intensity.
Controls were treated similarly but not irradiated. The amount of ATP was measured by the luciferin-luciferase bioluminescent assay. Results:
The amount of ATP in irradiated cell cultures was 10.79 � 0.15 μg/L (SD; n = 10), and in non-irradiated cell cultures it was 8.81 � 0.13 μg/L (SD; n = 10).
The average percentage increase of irradiated versus control cell cultures was about 22.4% � 0.56% SD (p < 0.001).
Conclusion:
This significant increase is probably due to laser irradiation; it cannot be attributed to any thermal effect, as the temperature during irradiation was maintained at 37.0� � 0.5�C.
Thus the therapeutic effects of the biostimulating power of this type of laser are identified and its indications may be expanded.
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With the photons/Bionic, you don't need to make it into a dilution. You just use straight fluid. I've used sweat after a detox sauna to capture the various toxins, etc. One might use urine, blood, etc. as well under the care of a doctor as these may be very intense and not always appropriate.
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Remember that the Lyme can hide from the immune system so strengthening the immune system won't make it find the Lyme ..... thus the nosodes in your energetic field to point out what's there.
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The article Sparkle posted in the other thread, on the relation between homeopathic potencies and photon frequencies looked sooo interesting.
Maybe that's why they match well together, homeopathy and photons?
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I think boosting ATP is different that boosting the immune system.
I'm not trying to be argumentative but I'm not 100% convinced about the use of nosodes. I guess I'll have to do my own experimenting.
I don't doubt that nosodes can help but I haven't really seen any scientific studies about it other than the article I posted on the other thread.
The doctor who wrote the article (Traian D. Stanciulescu) isn't a medical doctor - he's a philosopher & engineer.
Signs of light - A biophotonic approach to human (meta)-physical fundamentals By: Traian D. Stanciulescu
ATP is a nucleotide that performs many essential roles in the cell.
It is the major energy currency of the cell, providing the energy for most of the energy-consuming activities of the cell.
It is one of the monomers used in the synthesis of RNA and, after conversion to deoxyATP (dATP), DNA.
It regulates many biochemical pathways.
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Consumption of ATP
ATP powers most of the energy-consuming activities of cells, such as:
Most anabolic reactions. E
xamples: joining transfer RNAs to amino acids for assembly into proteins
synthesis of nucleoside triphosphates for assembly into DNA and RNA
synthesis of polysaccharides
synthesis of fats
active transport of molecules and ions
nerve impulses
maintenance of cell volume by osmosis
adding phosphate groups (phosphorylation) to many different proteins, e.g., to alter their activity in cell signaling.
muscle contraction
beating of cilia and flagella (including sperm)
bioluminescence
Extracellular ATP
In mammals, ATP also functions outside of cells. Its release from damaged cells can elicit pain;
from the carotid body signals a shortage of oxygen in the blood;
from taste receptor cells triggers action potentials in the sensory nerves leading back to the brain;
from the stretched wall of the urinary bladder signals when the bladder needs emptying.
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quote:I'm not trying to be argumentative but I'm not 100% convinced about the use of nosodes. I guess I'll have to do my own experimenting.
I don't doubt that nosodes can help but I haven't really seen any scientific studies about it other than the article I posted on the other thread.
If you consult your biotensor or another brand of divining rod, I'm sure it will confirm that a) nosodes work marvelously and b) the lack of scientific evidence is unimportant.
Now here's the real question: What happens when you combine magnets, nosodes, photontherapy, AND detox foot pads? Lyme wouldn't stand a chance!
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Well I tried magnets before...that didn't do the trick. lol. But they sure did hold notes on the fridge door well. Posts: 7545 | From The 5th Dimension - The Twilight Zone | Registered: Mar 2008
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I admit...I don't understand...why nosodes are needed. I would be curious if the current gov. studies using far infrared to treat various diseases are incorporating nosodes in the treatment.
Nosodes are homeopathic "medicines" that contain a very very tiny amt. of an offending substance.
Likely proteins, since this is what we react to i.e., "allergens".
But Bb's proteins, Osps, are very similar/identical to our own.(Saturated phosphatidylcholine and phosphatidylglycerol are important components of pulmonary surface active material.)
"To characterize phospholipids in these organisms, spirochetes were metabolically labeled with 3H palmitate or 3H oleate;
***B. burgdorferi contained only phosphatidylglycerol and phosphatidylcholine***
My note phosphatidylcholine = lecithin
while T. pallidum contained phosphatidylglycerol, phosphatidylcholine, phosphatidylethanolamine, phosphatidylserine, phosphatidylinositol, and cardiolipin.
If nosodes are proteins...what happens when we send energy (photons) into those proteins?
Are we mimicking photosynthesis to produce more ATP?!!!
Is this happening?
"the energy of a photon is used to *push a proton* across a lipid bilayer, establishing potential energy across the membrane, and then this energy is converted to chemical energy."
"Because a free H+ ion is technically a bare proton, acids are sometimes referred to as "proton donors" because they release hydrogen ions in solution"
Are the photons (pure energy) pushing hydrogen protons (+ charge)?
Are we raising the pH?
"TRPM8 Activation by Menthol, Icilin, and Cold Is Differentially Modulated by Intracellular pH"
"We found that, in contrast to VR1, TRPM8 is inhibited rather than potentiated by protons"
TRPM8 is a Ca-Na channel. That channel is activated in a number of cancers also.
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Funk -- Try explaining how vaccines protect us from disease it might give you a clue as to the why of nosodes. Vaccines and nosodes aren't much different and how they work might be very similar. Are the biophysicists correct, that all things have specific frequencies.
When you eat something, how does the body deconstruct our food to make it useful to the body. What is the mechanism? Imagine the millions of substances we put into our bodies to reconstruct those substances to who we become.
The main issue: are people machines or energy beings. And if we are energy beings then our biology is based on energy frequencies not components and parts. And if frequencies are the glue to matter is it possible hannemann was right when he developed homeopathy based on frequencies?
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We are very "electromagnetic" and so are the pathogens.
Hydrogen is key. It is our 1st element and is incredibly vital to all life.
"The proton is a subatomic particle with an electric charge of +1 elementary charge. It is often found in the nucleus of an atom but is also stable by itself and
has a second identity as the hydrogen ion, H+."
Want to talk about the "white light" at the end of life...the final burst of energy?
Magnesium (attached to ATP as Mg-ATP) burns with a white light. So does aluminum.
This is the basis for fireworks. Heat the other minerals up really hot and then they ignite and give off the various colors.
Minerals in nature never are by themselves. They are always attached to something.
When you burn a mineral cmpd. and capture the invisible gas in a test tube above the burning metal and then very carefully, ignite that gas...BOOM!
You've just ignited hydrogen.
I would not want to sit over those hydrogen storage tanks on the space shuttle...
The heat released is incredible which is why they have a LOT of water at the base...otherwise the whole launch pad would be totally destroyed.
Hydrogen is key...our blood pH is very carefully regulated by our kidneys. If it swings too far either way, we die.
Glucose + acids -> hydrogen
Mineral + acids -> hydrogen
Which goes right into our cells, but to get to the powerhouses of the cells (mitochondria), we need the enzyme, CoQ10 to help out. We normally make this enzyme (need the nutrients to do so) when we...
EXERCISE.
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The shape and movement of a spirochete is an electromagnetic creature. By itself it vibrates through that vibration is a frequency or pattern of vibrations specific to the spirochete. These vibrations are culmination of all the atoms that make up this one creature and it pattern of movement its pattern for survival all make up a certain frequency. If you could get enough of them you could record that frequency. If you could play that frequency back to the infected body and advise the body this is a bad frequency, wouldn't the immune destroy anything with that frequency.
This is how I understand vaccines to work and it is how nosodes work.
The problem with lyme, is it can change its frequency by changing its shape, from spirochete to l-form to cyst form. Making it a more difficult adversary to our immune system.
This is my take at it from an energetic view.
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quote:If you could get enough of them you could record that frequency. If you could play that frequency back to the infected body and advise the body this is a bad frequency, wouldn't the immune destroy anything with that frequency.
Yes, Bob: These have all been recorded with extremely fine equipment in one of the deepest old salt mines - no noise - no dust - on CD's. I have one for all sorts of Borrelia, bacteria, viruses, Fungi, etc. and have played them many hours very softly before going to sleep. They all sound like chirping crickets! Frequency meets frequency, or resonance happens between the two. They have been available for a number of years. I have probably killed a million unwanted pathogens this way.
I posted about these years ago and I don't think anyone picked up on it.
Similar CD's are available with sound recordings of colors, i.e. green-turqoise color frequencies resonate with heavy metals, in or out of the body. Resonance takes place and the metals start moving.
Everything - simply everything including air has a frequency. The nosode's frequency is the direction finder or the "sign on the road" pointing the way for the Bionic photon to meet its resonating frequency stored in the cell in the form of the bacteria. When the two frequencies meet - if they are identical - they cancel each other. I don't think it is exactly known how it works, but simply that it does work. The immune system is alerted, the photons multiply, and continue to do their work for a long time after exposure.
If we attach a fungi or coxsackie virus frequency stored in liquid or homeop. sugar globuli to the body, or any substance containing the necessary frequency, the same thing will happen. The pulsed photons in a certain wave length, wave form and strength find the matching frequency inside the body and eradicate the virus in the same way. Homeopathy all over again.
With food poisoning - take a bit of the food which contains the frequency of the disturbing pathogen, attach it to the body and apply Bionic photons - the bacteria that made you ill will be wiped out when they meet with the aid of the photons.
If you have the tick that infected you, carefully put it in a sealed container - it works in the same manner - with the proper photons. It's good to do energetic testing before any treatment.
Take care.
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Gigi, glad to read you again!
So: 1- audio CDs (I also heard them once): sound frequencies of pathogens as 'killer'. Travel from ear to brain to the whole body.
2- Homeopathy / Isopathy: water or sugar imprinted frequencies that travel in the body as killer or therapeutic use. Travel from either mouth mucosa (under the tongue) or by rubbing on the body (the 'transmission' of homeopathy is not 'physical' nor biochemical).
3- KMT and Rife: EM-Radiation used to kill pathogens /inhibit pathogen reproduction. The information reach us through our own eletromagenetic field.
4- Photons through visible light (photon wave, green laser): one can apply homeopathy like this too, then the frequency of the pathogen travels somehow through info contained in visible light, go to your brain through the eyes and then inform the body to kill or expulse.
5- Photons through infrared devices (Bionic and other machines): photons already can boost cell activity by themselves, but when we add homeopathic vials, they seem to carry the info through the frequency of the vial.
Our bodies emit biophotons in great numbers (this is proved), and one of the theories is that these biophotons serve to carry information. Attaching the nosode vial on the outside of the body is INSIDE the biophoton field our our bodies because the photons travel out from our bodies.
I suppose you could even let the vial an inch away from our body and it will have similar results, because our biophotons are reaching there too, in my understanding. You are getting treated, even though there is no ingestion nor skin absorption.
On the anedoctal side, I do feel treated with nosodes only by holding them in my hand. Rubbing or ingesting them make the effect though stronger.
Another important thing that is not well understood with homeopathy is that it has a REGULATORY function. If one takes a complex of minerals in homeopathic form, the body self regulates ONLY the minerals that needs regulation (will throw iron in excess if you got more iron than what you need, but will absorb better magnesium, if this mineral is lacking).
It works for absolutely everything in homeopathy. So ingesting a nosode with a pathogen can either work because this pathogen is problematic then our bodies start eliminating it...
...Or it can work the other way, as it happens for many Penicillum species: the penicillum in homeopathic dilutions will help the body to eliminate other pathogens, if it's that that your body needs. It's the body who knows and 'decide' what to do. If there's nothing that that specific penicilum species can kill, it won't kill. You will need to rub/ingest another type of penicilum.
If you think only in terms of biochemistry, homeopathy looks impossible, first because it usually has not enough chemical atoms to do anything biochemically, and because it has this regulatory function (to add when needed, to throw out when not needed, to do nothing if the substance is not what we need).
But such therapeutic 'effect' of homeopathy has been documented all over in clinical practice.
If you have no borrelia and uses borrelia nosodes (ingested, with photons, with visible light), it won't do anything for you. It is then different than vaccines.
Same for any type of 'vaccines' that are usually taken (like mumps, rubeola, etc). These pathogens in diluted homeopathic solutions will not prevent you from catching these diseases, because you still didn't catch them.
There's no such thing as vaccination with homeopathy (taking something to prevent), words from a highly respected classical homeopath. It may work only AFTER you catch it.
The main question here is: all these 5 types of treatment are frequency treatments of disease caused by pathogens. Why is that 4 and 5 seem to be the most efficient for elimination of borrelia?
I've done 2 and 3 for borrelia and they didn't eliminate my borrelia. They helped, but didn't eliminate it. I needed the biochemical help from herbs, supplements, accupuncture and tapping etc.
Somehow infra red photons combined with homeopathy look a very potent way to fight borrelia that all other frequency treatments alone can't do.
For me, it's is clear that homeopathy ONLY can't cure chronic lyme (I've been using homeopathy for ages). It may work for some, but not my case, nor my daughter's case. I always found homeopathy though soemthing very powerful, no matter in which school of homeopathy one is (classical, isopathy, these over the counter mixes, Sanum, now Heel mixes...).
But I start to 'want to believe' that combined with photons, homeopathy becomes another monster in efficacy. Somehow, in my understanding, it's not the Bionic that kills lyme, but it's the homeopathy that does, and the Bionic just help on cell communication or on boosting energy to perform what the homeopathic substance is already trying to do, just by being close to our bodies in our biophoton field.
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Just a caution, as blood autonosodes have been mentioned here. They can be very powerful, but can also be overpowering.
I would be more inclined to use a sweat or urine autonosode to help with detox.
A blood autonosode could be like taking the sherrif squad and sending them after every bad guy in the city all at once.
You could overwhelm the cops (your immune system) and fill up the jail house (your lymph, liver and kidneys) to quickly.
Slow and steady wins the race.
Thought provoking conversation. Thanks.
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GiGi thanks for posting about the CDs. I've learned that each treatment we do is transient. It usefull for a short time and then its time to move to something else the body want or needs. I think the CDs are usefull for a period of time and then they are not. And then they could be again. GiGi it could be a powerful weapon getting overlooked.
It might be a big reason alternatives aren't as successful as they could be. If you take everything your body wants when it wants it for a period of time how can you do anything except get well. Its like driving in the correct direction you'll get to the destination eventually.
I guess we need a substance / media test kit either for muscle testing or energetic testing. This would be used for daily testing and would aid in determining if the CDs were needed or some substance to make into a nosode.
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This is for seekhelp : magnets are finally getting center stage. Check out the following link, like vaccines they don't quite understand why magnets work they just do!
Until science can explain how vaccines work in the immune system or why magnets work for some people and not others. Be careful about exposing your ignorance, science isn't even close to unraveling what happens in the human body or complete solutions to chronic issues.
And oh, by the way, ABX is a shot in the dark, a hope it works solution for those who are chronic. Alternatives are the future for lymies finding permanant resolutions to their symptoms. It is only a matter of time now where this will be shown to be the case.
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Thanks Bob for the interesting article. Maybe I should start believing more. I guess it's not all black and white.
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Seekhelp -- we've got to keep an open mind. Are we really sure more then 2 years of ABX is the ultimate solution? I hope not...
Also in reading the article : imagine if science wasn't drug based what they might find.
For both seekhelp and Funk -- buy the biotensor from http://www.self-health.net/ and if you don't like it return it. It's 70 dollars, I'm sure it isn't going to bust your wallet. But give it a fair try.
The best to both of you for whatever you decide.
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I just want to take this oppurtunity to thank everyone for all of their posts to this thread!!!
There is so much for us all to learn(esp. me).
For many of us, this is new territory and I really appeciate you all sharing all of your knowledge.
Now, I have to go back and read everything and let it absorb.
Again, thanks! Elizabeth
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I really never want to look at any of these tools as a "powerful weapon". We are introducing to the body missing "information". This information actually does not kill, I believe. It merely had gotten lost for a great variety of reasons. Certainly not only because of a tick bite or a couple of pathogen intruders.
If you really started to search for all the missing frequencies/information (comparing the sick to a healthy body) , it would certainly be many more than the few called Lyme Disease. Just a handful of others (mis-reactions - wrong reactions on the part of the autonomic nervous system, along with a simple infection, can create helter-skelter. Emotional conflicts we have learned to ``live'' with are an extremely potent contributor, whether we are aware of them or not.
We are rarely ever looking at other contributing factors. This is probably the reason why we are having problems getting things under control.
We have to work our way through relieving the body of all the undesirable infections, the mis-interpretated responses (unknown allergic reactions, unknown to us) the extra load onto the system.
With energetic testing we can accomplish a lot and especially with energetic treatments. But it has to be at a very deep level, where emotional and inherited unresolveds are not overlooked. I think they play a huge part in who we are today. If you can't get help from a practitioner who does energetic testing, learn to use a Biotensor. Oxy posted about having found one in her earlier thread.
Just think of it: we have tools today that help us find all the deficiencies, the infections, in one drop of blood or one drop of saliva --- all the information that is part of our DNA is stored therein and can help us with the clearing.
www.Allergie-Immun.de (click on Englisch) and Skasys help with this in different ways. There are I am sure many more systems that can get us closer finding the missing links, the missing information in order to deal with the body as a whole. Both of these systems also prepare the information carrying medicines to use that can be taken as drops. Skasys can be used with the Bionic. Allergie-Immun cannot, because it is derived from a deeper energetic level. It has to be taken by mouth for a couple of weeks. The test can be repeated until symptomfree or combined with certain other energetic treatments with the Bionic. All work on different levels.
Killing spirochetes alone I do not think will get us well, nor will all the hundreds of different kinds of biochemical supplements and certainly not antibiotics alone. We have to bring order back to the body - we have to supply it with the missing information and the missing light in the right wave length, the right pulsing, the right strength, so that it can penetrate the inside of the cell rather than just bounce off.
An egg grown by a chicken in a cage does not contain the same number of biophotons as the egg laid by a chicken that has been roaming around the daylight outside. Find the research by Fritz Popp.
Which kind of eggs have we been eating?
The very same pattern is found in plants grown organically and the ``conventional'' way with all the chemical fertilizers and pesticide/insecticides. Which kind have we been eating to keep our body alive and well? How many hours have you spent next to the computer box being bombarded with EMF and thought of nothing else but Lyme Disease. That alone contributes to what I call energetically attracted miserable symptoms. There is no doubt in my mind: we become what we think - our body follows our brain.
I think we have to get out of the fight and flight syndrome by learning to eliminate some of what has become a basic problem for our system; the insults we have let happen because of our way of thinking and our way of life. It all starts somewhere - probably a long time before the tick infection.
Just rambling.
Think healthy thoughts and take care.
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gigi the mindbody connection you speak of can definitely contribute, as far as i am concerned, in a big way. the worry we have always contributes to the flight or fight pattern that we can have at an elevated state due to the physical and emotional traumas. that alone can exhaust the adrenals...and mess with thyroid...and so on. i personally noticed, and of course this is partly inline with dr john sarno's work, is that when i take breaks away from my disease (re: internet including this message board), i tend to feel better. (btw, this board is totally invaluable for those with tbis, just so i you understand that i am not saying this site is bad). we need to take care of ourselves, but when an illness becomes our hobby as well, then we will suffer more. positive thinking, meditation, and hobbies are all great ways to ease the suffering. but what gigi mentions regarding the state of the emotional being prior to major lyme symptoms...that is on the deeper level- energy, or quantum medicine, however you view it...definitely plays a role. good homeopaths would agree.
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Marnie, you may be interested in reading about this experiment by Dr Karin Lenger where she concludes that homeopathic potencies consist of magnetic photons .
She put to use a magnetic resonance method where various high-potencied homeopathic remedies were put in a strong magnetic field, and were found to resonate diffently - each remedy with its own magnetic resonance.
Maybe this explains why homeopathics & biophoton treatment work together.
The article below describes her experiments and it is a little technical so it might be right up your alley, you'll probably understand it better than I did.
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GiGi -- I didn't mean weapon as a destructive more as a weapon as a constructive force. We forget the term weapon is nothing more then a tool. And any tool is only as good as it is appropriately used.
The point of my post was the importance of using tools appropriately based on enegetic testing.
If you are killing pathogens everyday you might over-run your ability to detoxify. If you do, you may be supporting another pathogen. And I agree with you GiGi everything has to be in balance to get well.
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Looking, the article is very interesting, thanks for posting it!
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I was just wondering where GiGi got the frequency CD's?? I would like to try that with my other treatments!
Thank you!
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Biopureus.com sells the CD's.
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The frequency of the earth is 7.83 (an alpha frequency)
"The frequency 7.83 Hz represents the amount of time required for light to circle the earth, and is referred to as the Schumann resonance."
"All physical matter is in a state of vibration as is proven by the fact that electrons are always moving and vibrating.
Everything that vibrates has its own resonating frequency or "resonance". In 1952 German physicist Professor W.O. Schumann predicted that there are electromagnetic standing waves (sometimes manifesting as lightening/thunderstorms) within the cavity formed by the surface of the earth and the ionosphere surrounding the earth.
Schumann detected resonances within this cavity to be at a main frequency of 7.83 hz. Hence the term "Schumann Resonance".
Our brain also creates electromagnetic waves with particular frequencies."
And...
"Signals of normal strength can no longer cross synapses that are damaged by the reduction in blood flow. The loss of signals across the synapses compounds the process of deterioration.
Muscle atrophy and a host of other problems follow. We have found that a signal delivered at 7.83 cycles per second (the body's natural electromagnetic resonant frequency) and at an amplitude approximately 10 times that originally required will cross these enlarged synapses, repolarize them."
"The amplitude (i.e. intensity) of the Schumann resonance is, however, not constant, and appears to be extremely dependent upon tropical (and hence global) temperature.
(Oh..oh...impact?)
Indeed preliminary results seem to indicate that a mere one degree increase in temperature seems to be correlated with a doubling of the Schumann resonance.
It is fed by lightning discharges and the planet's internal electromagnetic activity. By a rather stunning coincidence, its frequency fluctuates slowly between 9 and 12 cycles per second - right in the heart of the human alpha range."
Earth Resonance Frequency - 'leaves you feeling revitalized like you've spent a day in the country.'; reports of accelerated healing/enhanced learning - "the earth's natural brainwave" notes that overtones of the Schumann Resonance can also stimulate the pituitary in the same way that 7.83 HZ can - especially 31.32 HZ.
"Alpha waves are electromagnetic oscillations in the frequency range of 8-12 Hz arising from synchronous and coherent (in phase / constructive) electrical activity of thalamic pacemaker cells in the human brain."
Thalamic PACEMAKER cells in our brains?
There is a very strange link also to 432Hz which is considered the original perfect "A". 432Hz is considered the key Lyme frequency.
" Many years ago I was enthralled by the sight of a certain genus of flowering plant in a remote mountainous area, being pollinated by bees called by the plants by their emission of a distinct humming sound.
After recording the television documentary, I checked the frequency of the fundamental frequency generated by the plants and found it to be 432 Hertz, or cycles per second.
This prompted me to place small battery powered sound generators in the flower beds on my farm where I kept bee hives, and to discovering a whole new world of plant and bee intelligence."
And then the color/Chakra links...also curious:
Violet (red+blue) is linked to the pineal/eyes (melatonin), thought, and the note/vowel A (432Hz).
"Various octaves both above and below the fundamental **red alpha-line vibration of hydrogen*** are the constants of proton spin and precession, mitochondrial vibration, as well as the Earth's fundamental resonance, and a score of other octaves with applications in every field of the sciences.
Significant harmonics of these hydrogen octaves determine calcium, sodium, and other ion vibration frequencies, the fluorescence of metals and more, in a pattern related to the periodic table."
In physics and astronomy, H-alpha, also written Hα, is a specific emission line created by hydrogen at 6562.8 Angstroms.
H-alpha has a wavelength of 656.281 nanometers, is visible in the red part of the electromagnetic spectrum..."
Practical use...cameras and LEDs:
Cameras for better night shots:
"10 high power high luminance wide angle LED with 880nm spectrum to optimize sensitivity and allow user to see object 10 meter away during zero lux ( total darkness ) situation."
And the WFL hunts in almost absolute darkness...
And then there is the "magic" in numbers:
Fibonacci Progression is as follows: 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,143.....
In other words, you get each number by adding the previous two.
Apparently EVERYTHING in nature follows the above...number of petals on a flower, for example.
Why do I get the feeling we lost a LOT of knowledge that the ancient cultures had?
Burial chambers in the pyramids have a very specific resonance.
Light and sound - universal "communication" happening in all life forms?
Reminds me of the movie, "Close Encounters"...and the computer that generated the colored lights and tones...at the end of the show.
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quote: I really never want to look at any of these tools as a "powerful weapon". We are introducing to the body missing "information". This information actually does not kill, I believe. It merely had gotten lost for a great variety of reasons. Certainly not only because of a tick bite or a couple of pathogen intruders.
If you really started to search for all the missing frequencies/information (comparing the sick to a healthy body) , it would certainly be many more than the few called Lyme Disease.
This correlates EXACTLY to the statements made by a medical dowser I worked with for several years. He was incredible. Through all of his own dowsing research, he determined that EVERYTHING is made of frequencies. The food you eat, the medicine you take - all of it is simply a vibration (or frequency). Your body is composed of billions of frequency sets. When you take a certain medicine, it works because it is replacing a frequency missing from your body.
What was REALLY interesting is that he said that various infections removed certain frequencies from our bodies, and that was what caused illness. Often, he would discover frequency sets in the body that were reversed instead of missing (e.g. 54321 instead of 12345) and that was almost always caused by a bacteria or virus.
When I was extremely ill with Bart and Lyme last year, he was startled to discover that my entire polarity was reversed (all of my numbers were backwards). It certainly felt like it.
I think this area of research (energy medicine in all its forms) hold the most potential for drastic changes in our ability to heal.
- Andrew
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