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Yes, they get painful, but not the nipple area. They had also wasted away a couple years ago and I've gone through puberty again ... they're back. LOL
My menstrual cycles are very regular.
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Boy I hope I get to go through puberty again!!
Mine have definitely shrunk since the weight loss.
Maybe there is some hope for them after all.
Maybe this is hormonal too? Caused by Lyme.
I don't believe I am pre-menapausal. I will only be 42 at the end of the month.
Maybe this goes hand in hand with adrenal fatigue too.
Hugs,
Geneal
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Yes
It started on Artemisinin when beginning Babs tx and lasted a few of months. It happened again recently for a few weeks (while off meds but post mammogram).
I don't know what to think.
I hope it's better soon, Geneal. I'd hold off on the mammogram for a little bit. I can't imagine going through that that way. Ugh! it's bad enough when you aren't sore and sensitive.
blah, blah, blah, not a doc, my personal experience and/or opinion...
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I had breast pain and started taking vitamin E. Are you getting sufficient E? The pain would start under my armpit and radiate down to the nipple. Really catches your breath!
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Yes I have very painful breasts! Like when pregnant. You have Lymphnodes in your breasts and on the sides of them that run up your armpit. They could be the cause of pain. I know that is why mine hurt. Doctor confirmed.
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It was so bad last month that I was sure I was pregnant. I was freaking out because we have taking the necesary precautions to keep from getting pregnant..
Well, I wasn't pregnant.. Thank God! So I guess it's just something to do with Lyme disease or a co-infection???
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Well, I know I am not pregnant.
I was "fixed" so to speak.
The babesia makes sense. Dumb me didn't coincide babesia therapy
With the onset of breast pain.
I appreciate your responses....really.
I searched the forum before asking the question and only found one or two topics on this.
This does make me feel better.
Hope to get to the mammogram in the next two months. I can hardly wait!
Hugs,
Geneal
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My LLMD has me on Xymogen DIMension 3 for hormones ... I don't have breast pain like I used to (sometimes, but not as often), and maybe this was the reason for the "second puberty" as it wasn't from gaining weight ... I have only gained back 5 pounds, which is fine, I'm now in normal range so my scale doesn't blink at me anymore.
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I've had this come & go several times. I'm assuming it's either the Lyme or Babesia messing with my hormones.
Somehow, when this happens, my DD always has to cuddle up next to me and repeatedly seems to whack me with her head. It actually makes my eyes tear.
I'm so sorry your going through this now and sooooo glad I'm not. It's positively hellish.
I've even had times when there's been some discharge, which concerned me, but I couldn't even imagine deliberately going to have my boobs squashed into pancakes in that state.
I wish I knew why it went away so I could tell you, but I've got nothing, sorry. I'll just say some prayers for you that it passes quickly.
Ali
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Thanks Ali,
You are so right. You would think I had bulls-eyes painted on my breasts.
My childrens heads both constantly find them.
Thanks for the prayers. I am so blessed to have the unconditional friendship and support from you all.
Hugs,
Geneal
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I just thought of something!
That might be why I made myself develop a liking for Tofu. Soy is supposed to help balance women's hormones, I believe.
Tofu from a Chinese or Japanese restaurant is about the only soy that doesn't make me gag.
I think they were starting to get a bit sore again the other day & I think I got a craving for Chinese food. I had Tofu. Maybe that headed it off!?
Try some Tofu, maybe it will help. I hope!
Two kids to bash you. You get an extra prayer for that sweetie.
I hope it passes soon.
Ali
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For some people this kind of pain is from low progesterone from lyme hitting the adrenals so hard. The adrenals produce much of the reproductive hormones in women. Progesterone creme helps many women with this problem. Some use a compounded prescription, and some use a over the counter yam creme.
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quote:Originally posted by bejoy: For some people this kind of pain is from low progesterone from lyme hitting the adrenals so hard. The adrenals produce much of the reproductive hormones in women. Progesterone creme helps many women with this problem. Some use a compounded prescription, and some use a over the counter yam creme.
I was going to post and ask if she was taking progesterone, because when I take it my breasts are way too tender!!!
Go get the mammogram, and take Vicodin an hour before! I've done that and it worked great!
I don't think soy is good for any of us!
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quote:Originally posted by Lymetoo:
I don't think soy is good for any of us!
Care to enlighten me?
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I had my first mammogram last week and all I can say is there has got to be a better way! There's no way men would let anyone squeeze their testicles between two plates. Why do they think it's okay to do that to our breasts? Somebody better be thinking of a better procedure!
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I am sure my hormones are messed up too.
I can't take vicodin (darn), and with the two little ones,
Have to be able to function.
I will have this test done soon.
It seems that the breast soreness comes in cycles for two to three months, then resolves
For a couple of months, etc.
I agree that there needs to be a kinder more gentle approach to checking for breast cancer.
Maybe one day a brilliant woman will come up with one.
Hugs,
Geneal
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I know I've gone through exactly the same thing, with the cycles of a few months. I haven't figured out any pattern yet, because I'm so relieved when it's gone & I haven't thought it was going to come back.
Guess what?! They've been getting sore again over the past few days. When I woke up this am, just the little bit of gravitational pull walking across the room was painful.
I'm going to try the Tofu over the weekend, probably tomorrow night & see if it passes. Unless of course, someone will tell me why I shouldn't eat any Tofu.
I'll let you know what happens.
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Mine have been sore - more consistently though recently, than before antibiotics. I also had a greenish-grey discharge from both nipples intermittently, though no cause was ever found. A breast smear came back 'positive foam cells', which are milk cells. Prolactins have been normal.
I worry because many sources are saying that electromagnetic fields from all kinds of sources are adversely affecting the adrenals, pituitary, and pineal glands.
Melatonin is one hormone affected by ELF fields, and a decrease in this hormone can lead to cancers, including those of the breast.
I will never get a mammogram again, as a result of what I've been reading. The great majority of tumors are found by the woman herself anyway, to justify such a dangerous procedure.
I find it hard to believe that we are still 'racing' for the cure for breast cancer when it is obvious to me, after only one year, that the cause of any cancer is a combination of infection, toxicity, and most importantly - the toxic, manmade electromagnetic fields that are causing these infections to replicate out of control and causing poisons to cross the blood-brain barrier, thereby interfering with the communication between cells of the immune system and growing cancer cells.
When these communications are working properly, cancer cells are attacked, not promoted. When they have interference, cancer cells win.
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quote:Originally posted by dmbfan: What do people mean by a second puberty?
It was a joke ... mine had shrunk away to almost nothing, but grew back.
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Mine disappeared 20 years ago after I had my daughter. I always joked with her that she must have sucked the fat right out of them, along with the milk.
I have a nice handful now following either minocycline or Larium - not sure which. I'm happy with that part of me now at least.
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Hi Geneal,
Sorry you have been hurting from this! I have to say, you are definitely on to something, judging from the responses.
Yes for me too. Sometimes I think it is water retention that is the main culprit for aching breasts. Since starting treatment, especially in the last few months, it is like having PMS for most of the month, instead of only the week before. Maybe try a gentle diuretic, like dandelion root tea?
Perhaps some of the supplements and abx that we are taking have estrogenic effects? I have read that resveratrol, one of the buhner core herbs, has a plant estrogen. Whatever it is, my breasts are larger and more tender since starting lyme tx (oh man I can imagine that some folks are going to want to start lyme treatment after reading this thread -- think of all the women in the US who use silicon implants!).
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you mean there is hope that I might get the "girls" back???!!!!! Best news I heard all week!
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oh man, i thought it was just gaining the weight.
yep, big time. i can hardly stand to wear a bra some days but have to cause i'm, uh, large.
i also have horrible bruise like marks on my breasts. sort of red and bluish marks. the skin looks horrible.
don't know if lyme causes these marks or not. my ob/gyn said it's from me being so large that it breaks the small veins in the breast.
i'd like to loose down to 34B where i used to be.
unfortunately, i've gained so much weight i can't have breast reduction because i need to loose about 75 pounds first.
they're so sore sometimes i can't even sleep on my side.
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randibear - Are the bruises on your breasts sort of claw-like and kind of like the spokes of a wheel, radiating from the nipple?
I had these after my daughter was born. I thought they were just stretch marks.
They are silver now and look like scars, but I fully intend to show them to Dr. S. in a couple of weeks in hopes of getting a bartonella dx, and hopefully some Cipro or Levaquin.
I also have this bruised area on my thigh (almost on my rear-end) that I thought was a stretch mark, too. It appeared after a hospitalization during which they made me gain 10 lbs in 4 days.
A doctor recently told me this stretch mark on my thigh looked like a babesia rash. This one looked sort of bruise-like, too, only it is red - like a million blood vessels burst at once. It never turned bluish like a bruise though.
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no, they don't run in lines or look like stretch marks. they are large and irregular, just like a big ole reddish area, with a bluish tinge.
my mom has horrible stretch marks on her stomach from pregnancies and these don't look anything like that.
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Could the breast/nipple pain be a herx from killing keets in the breasts?
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I have had pain in my breasts since I had a crazy reaction to an injection of antibiotics (before I knew I had Lyme). I became very very ill, my breasts and all of my lymph nodes were stinging like crazy. I also had lumps in my breasts after that experience. This pain never went away.
I now think that the Lyme freaked out by the injection ran to hide in all of my lymph nodes and the glands in my breasts. Now that I am on consistent antibiotics the pain is becoming less and less. I believe that when these symptoms are gone this will be a good sign that the cystic form of Lyme is gone.
Just a theory.
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Lyme disrupts your pituitary axis. This controls the hormones all over. Pituitary controls lactation and corresponding hormones.
I have had milk production for over 6 months now at a low level but it is enough to cause pain and soreness.
I had pain before the milk production began.
It is definatly The Lyme throwing off the Pituitary axis.
Burrascano discusses this in his guidelines.
I still dont know what to do about it though! hahaa.
it does stink.
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Hmmm interesting. I had a blood test that showed high Prolactin (I think that is what it is called). I also had a bright spot on my pituitary glad on my MRI. The results from the MRI read - could be normal, could be abnormal. Ok - there's $3,000 well spent Posts: 2232 | From USA | Registered: Aug 2009
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I got the painful breasts from Bart. As soon as I treated for it the pain stopped. When I went off the Bart meds the breast pain came back. Dr. had me on Vit E and Evenining Primrose oil.
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Parisa, My holistic gynocologist just recommended a thermagram instead of a mammogram. I had never heard of it. He says it is superior to mammograms and is not at all invasive. It measures heat in the breasts and would pick up breast cancer way before it is even visible on a mammogram.
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