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Deb133
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Hi Everybody!

Trying not to freak out but my daughter has been symptom free for about 4 months. Got her tetanus shot yesterday and this afternoon she felt horrible for about 3 hours.

Had aches and some pains from head to toe. Chest was bothering her..body felt very weird, tired, freezing, headache. She had a hard time

describing her symptoms but said she didnt feel

right. Seemed a little lethargic. Her body felt weird and had weird sensations. Went to the doctor and she didnt think it

had anything to do with the tetanus shot.

Gave her some advil and about 1 hour later she

started feeling much better. Felt well enough

to go to a party with friends? Has anyone ever

heard of an immunization triggering lyme symptoms

or just having some kind of reaction from the

shot itself? I am trying to stay calm...

Thanks,

Deb G

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lymielauren28
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Hey Deb, Sorry about your daughters reaction to the shot, that must've been really scary!

If I'm correct the Tetanus "shot" is actually a vaccine. Most Lyme docs will tell you that vaccines are a big no-no for Lyme patients. Vaccines wreak havock on the immune system and contain many additives that are dangerous - mercury is just one.

Since she rebounded so quickly, I'm sure she'll be fine...but from now on I would steere clear of any and all vaccines just to be on the safe side.

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Snailhead
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I'm glad she's better too. I had a DPT (diptheria, pertusis and tetanus) vaccine in Dec. Sent me into a horrid, horrid relapse.

Stay away from vaccines if at all possible.

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karenl
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I had big problems with the tetanus shot at age 52. Horrible fatigue and lasted months.
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It doesn't make sense to me to completely steer clear of vaccines. For instance, lyme is bad, but if someone were to contract tetanus...that's nothing short of horrible.

Is the advice from the medical establishment to truly NEVER get a vaccine or should you just go on higher doses of antibiotics or something before you get a vaccine?

Anyone know?

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Lymers brings up a really good point, I hope someone knows the answer to it!
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Ocean
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I got a TD (no pertussis) shot in April 2002. I'd been feeling darn good, had no idea it was Lyme as I'd gotten the CFS dx in 1997.

By that fall I'd gone to a doc for my strange symptoms. By the following March, I had unbelievable out of body anxiety, accompanied by dizziness/air hunger, ect.

I will never get another vaccine again. There is evidence that Tetanus doesn't provide full immunity anyhow.. AND if you do have a deep puncture wound (which I didn't...it bled a lot, but the ER said I needed one), you can get the Tetanus antitoxin anyhow.

Besides....with modern medicine, it's not that big of a threat...abx, plus the ability to hydrate, back in the day people died because once lockjaw set in, you couldn't get food/fluids in and you died due to dehydration.

I still have not regained the health I had in 2002 prior to this vaccine, even in 2005-06 when I felt better, I still was not at the level in 2002.

I hope that your daughter doesn't relapse completely. Just keep an eye on her.


Ocean

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Pinelady
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Here's what the CDC says about it. GBS is getting

to be more the norm than the slight risk.


http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/cisa/cisa_studies.htm

As for what to do about it after you take the jab.


There are many things but the main ones are

massive doses of IV vitamin C and A. To the point of

diarrhea. A. Kalorkorinos saved many aboriginal

that way. But many were lost.

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Pinelady
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The trustworthyness of vaccine companies has also come into question when Baxters Pharmaceutical

were caught 'accidentally putting Bird Flu virus in Human Flu vaccines, as reported by Reuters.

Mike Adams from Natural News believes that this is more than a co-incidence: "The shocking answer

is that this couldn't have been an accident. Why? Because Baxter International adheres to something

called BSL3 (Biosafety Level 3) - a set of laboratory safety protocols that prevent the

cross-contamination of materials."

This is not Baxter's first brush with controversy. They, along with Bayer were exposed,

in court for knowingly shipping HIV infected factor 8 clotting agents for heamophilliacs,

infecting between 6,000 and 10,000 people. Would you trust these people with your lifestock,

children, and your own body? Interestingly, Baxters was exposed as having bird flu in

vaccines shipped out earlier this year, and, will be the ones producing the swine flu vaccine.

Interestingly a similar swine flu scare occured in the 1970's, very few died from the flu, but

people started dying of the vaccine, which had to be withdraw.

Not only is the vaccine potentially dangerous and provided by an industry that has lost trust with

many, but predicting a flu outbreak, for example, is admitted to be guesswork, because the

exact strain is not known until it emerges. The New York Times reported, for example, that the

flu vaccine makers guessed wrongly the flu strain in 2008. And this is not the first time.


http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=13800

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I find this topic interesting since last year, I was due for my tetanus shot.

My LLMD suggested I pass on it. He said if I do something that puts it at risk...ie step on the ole rusty nail or something...that they will give me one at that point.

I don't know if that was the right answer, but at this point, my tetanus shot hasn't been renewed. Guess time will tell.

Cathy

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Here's an excerpt from the book "The Homeopathic Treatment of Lyme Disease" by Peter Alex of Germany (HomeopathyWest Publishing):

quote:
Several cases point to a link between Lyme Disease and vaccination. An American microbiologist has recently isolated a botulin-like toxin as a metabolic product of the borrelia bacterium. Botulin toxin is better known as the metabolic product of Clostridium botulinum, a spore-forming bacterium; it is moreover the strongest bacterial poison known to man. Another bacterium of the same genus, Clostridium tetani, plays an accompanying (not causative) role in Tetanus.

As we know, the Tetanus vaccine, which is administered with increasing frequency by allopathic medicine, is involved as a causal agent in the origin of chronic neurological diseases. The connection with Multiple Sclerosis has been frequently demonstrated.

In a case from my own practice, a young woman became ill with MS shortly after receiving a second tetanus shot. As we know, many neurological cases of Lyme Disease are misdiagnosed by specialists as MS. It would thus be desirable to establish which of these factors exerts an influence. But here we need more accurate observations using a consistent recording format.

Here's a LymeNet thread about Tetanus shots and Lyme:
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/63743?

[ 09-03-2009, 12:40 PM: Message edited by: Truthfinder ]

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I had a tetanus shot years a go and will NEVER get another one. I got really sick from it and it set me back for years.

Kathy

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Since I became sick with lyme, I can't get a tetanus shot either. I pass out every time. People kept trying to tell me it was a fear of needles. But I knew they were crazy. No other shot has ever made me react like that.

I can't say whether or not I got any other lyme symtpom flares as I didn't know I had lyme at the time so I didn't pay attention.

hang tight, it might pass once the vaccine clears her system. Maybe some detox would help. Try not to panic just yet.

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I agree with NOT taking it. I had my last one about 16 years ago.

You will have to get another one if you have an accident requiring one anyhow... so why bother and risk it?

So save yourself! RUN Forest, RUN!

[Big Grin]

Also, I would encourage those who have had a bad reaction to report it.

You MAY save others from mild to serious problems.

And who knows.. you might have gotten a bad batch.

Here is the place to report it.

Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) Web site:

http://www.vaers.hhs.gov/

The ROTTEN Lyme vaccine had over 1,000 reports.. and the ducks still whined about taking it off the market.

So DO report even a possible adverse reaction. PLEASE!!!!

[Big Grin]

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i got a flu shot several years ago. ain't recovered yet...

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Deb133
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Thanks for all your replies. She is doing much better.

I am kicking myself for not realizing the repercussions.

I would say she may have had a very mild setback. So I am hoping the worst is over. This is just so nervewracking...

Thanks everybody!

Deb G

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My LLMD told me to avoid tetanus shots until I'm completely well from Lyme. He must have had similar experiences with this patients.
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