Topic: What diets have any of you tried to boost immunity?
richedie
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Anyone? Has anyone tried to boost immunity with a specific diet and did it work???? I am really curious to hear.
Thanks.
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Pinelady
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Richedie they believe the best diet would be one to put your PH above 7.5
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sutherngrl
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I started juicing veggies about 6 weeks ago, to promote better nutrition and better absorption of nutrition.
Now I am interested in this PH thing, but having trouble finding the PH testing strips at any of the pharmacys around here.
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I had to get them special order. I was amazed how fast fresh grapes bring it up.
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avoiding vitamin D intake (supplements, fortified foods, fish, etc.) seems to have helped for me
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feelfit
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Southern Girl PH strips on Amazon. I am on a PH diet to make the body more alkaline. Grapes are the # one alkalizer. Worried about yeast but the nutritionist said not to.
Try to eat fresh, raw fruits and veggies as much as possible Richedie. Juicing is awesome, you can get loads of nutrients in one glass of juice.
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Abxnomore
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Ph testing strips can easily be ordered on the internet.
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sutherngrl
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feelfit, any particular kind of grapes?
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Lauralyme
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What about drinking alkaline water?
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High doses of vitamin C can boost your immunity a great deal. I take 20gms a day along with sea salt. Also smoothies made with good quality yogurt/kefir and added probiotics.
Google smoothies for healing recipes. They are helping me immensly. Also digestive enzymes (I use super digestaway by Soloray)really help and antiparasitic herbs and coconut oil.
I add them to my smoothies. Sea salt is very alkalizing btw,
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my stomach has been in all kinds of knotts, bloated, cramping (not on or near period) but I just started riphamin, mino, plaqunil, and allenia. I am taking msm, nac, d3-5, nattokinase, and mag.
I am wondering if you guys know what I can eat that will help my stomach. I am so very nauseous.
I can't do sugar right now. I can eat strawberries and raspberries but that is the extent of my fruit intake. Any suggestions would be great!
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feelfit
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Southern Girl, all grapes good, organic red are best. Just wash well. Smiles, try some plain Keifer and blend the berries into it. Kiefer tends to coat the stomach well, at least for me, and is soothing.
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Smiles, you didn't mention probiotics, acidophilus---- you absolutely need them.
Also take milk thistle , silymarin, pills to protect your liver.
You could get Candida infection on those drugs--- it's good that you aren't eating sugar! I take Allimax , GSE (grapefruit seed extract), oregano oil pills and caprylic acid pills for candida. Actually candida can cause stomach symptoms, i think (?).
That's a very heavy drug schedule. Can your LLMD lighten it, or is it necessary?
You probably need more supplements. Are you taking B-50's? I always take B-50's , bacause my liver needs them while i'm on antibioitcs. I got nausea once when i ran out of B-50's for a week.
Nausea can mean liver problems. Have you had a CMP blood test?
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i juice every morning i also heard someone tell me that watermelon juice and juicing the rind helps boost ph
i also like d'adamo diet cause its not too crazy
every time i try gluten or dairy or even no carbs, i just cant handle it and start binging but the d'adamo diet is real balanced
try to do organic as much as i can
if i get too finatic , its just too much stress!!
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pamoisondelune
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Richedie---
I hope you are not eating sugar---- it depresses the immune system.
Do you have candida in your gut? Someone posted that candida can destroy your immune system. A lot of your immune system is located in your gut.
---Polly Polygonum
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pamoisondelune
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Here's a quote from Dr Mercola: QUOTE
For most of you reading this, cold and flu season is right around the corner, and with it will come the yearly push urging you to get a flu vaccine to stay healthy.
This year the push will be even more magnified with the exaggerated swine flu risks ... and the dangerous vaccine solution ... being heavily promoted.
If you take nothing else away from this article, let it be this: you have at your disposal tools to bolster your immune system and drastically reduce your risk of colds and the flu. You do not need a vaccine to do this. In fact, a vaccine could easily make your health worse.
And one of these ``tools'' that I urge you to look into right away is good bacteria, or probiotics.
Eighty percent of your immune system is located in your digestive system, so--it makes perfect sense that probiotics would be very effective at warding off cold and flu viruses
Remember, a robust immune system is your number one defense system against ALL disease, and in order to keep your immune system in top working order you must have a healthy balance of good to bad bacteria in your gut (the optimal balance is about 85 percent ``good bacteria'' and 15 percent ``bad'').
UNQUOTE -----Polly Polygonum
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richedie
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Don't overdo meat and/or milk. Both are very acidic and can also cause the leaching of calcium and other minderals from our bones.
Another great food/drink for alkalizing is lemon water. Each day I make a huge glass of filtered water with one fresh squeezed lemon and one lime.
I agree, and I do eat tons and tons of veggies, and a smaller amount of fruit.
I haven't seemed to have an issue with candida thus far.
I spoke with two separate nutritionists and both recommended a primarily vegetarian diet of mostly if not all, whole foods, little to nothing processed...since vegetarians are found to have higher levels of the good bacteria than others. I don't eat white breads and no sugar.
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I am taking asodophlis, nac, msm, vit d3-5, mag and nattokinase.
I don't know if I'll keep on all these meds as I am very very sick. I have been in treatment for 5 years with 15 months of IV rocephin. I am still not well and trying to figure out what course of abx I can do that will hit the bart, lyme, babs, and whatever else I got so I can get better.
Because I was treated with tetracyclines for decades for my skin not a lot of abx work any more. So we're trying this. But I am not doing so well.
I am trying to do everything I can to help my body. My lymph nodes around my neck are swollen, i keep sneezing and have runny noses, and my stomach is protuding like I am pregnant (but I am not). I guess these are all bart symptoms and since I just started the Riphmin on Monday it makes sense that I am worse.
I never knew all those things were from Bart. But I am trying to figure out way to boost my immune system since I just had swine flu so that I can give my body the best chance possible to get well this time round.
Thanks for the suggestions feel free to add more.
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regarding the nutritionist that recommends a vegetarian diet- Be very careful! Dr. Mercola even does not recommend this
From my experience, when i went vegetarian and even tried raw vegan, my health got soooooo bad and became deficient, my organs actually weakened and i got sicker then ever, I know some nutritionists believe that vegetarian is the best but can you digest all that cellulose? it has to be your composition, If you are the type of person that cant digest all the veggies, you will just get more candida...They kept telling me to follow the diet and I just got worse. Without some meat or cholesterol- your hormones can not be produce properly. This is not to say that a some people do very well on that diet but I dont think many.
I am not saying to eat a ton of meat either or junk. You still need alot of veggies, cooked, raw...But when you're sick, you need certain foods, fish or whatever for the adrenals, brain... But take some enzymes, or hcl to help digest.
Thats just my experience. I have not even yet reversed the damage. I also gained a ton of weight cause it slowed my metabolism.
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richedie
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The problem is Dr. Mercola is a wack nut in my opinion.
My doctor told me today of a nutritionist she knows who cured herself of Lyme by going on a raw diet. She had tried it all and finally turned to various diets. She said as brutal as it sounds, she became totally well on a raw, vegan diet. I am going to see this woman next month.
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richedie
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as much as I like to eat meat it does groww me out a lot so I rarely eat it. I guess I was referring to the fact that we are biologcal Herbavores so it makes sense to eat vegetarian.
Keep in mind, disease thrives in an acidic environment, hence people who eat lots of meat, cheese, milk, etc.
quote:Originally posted by laceyj: regarding the nutritionist that recommends a vegetarian diet- Be very careful! Dr. Mercola even does not recommend this
From my experience, when i went vegetarian and even tried raw vegan, my health got soooooo bad and became deficient, my organs actually weakened and i got sicker then ever, I know some nutritionists believe that vegetarian is the best but can you digest all that cellulose? it has to be your composition, If you are the type of person that cant digest all the veggies, you will just get more candida...They kept telling me to follow the diet and I just got worse. Without some meat or cholesterol- your hormones can not be produce properly. This is not to say that a some people do very well on that diet but I dont think many.
I am not saying to eat a ton of meat either or junk. You still need alot of veggies, cooked, raw...But when you're sick, you need certain foods, fish or whatever for the adrenals, brain... But take some enzymes, or hcl to help digest.
Thats just my experience. I have not even yet reversed the damage. I also gained a ton of weight cause it slowed my metabolism.
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richedie
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Hi laceyj,
As much as I like to eat meat it does gross me out a lot so I rarely eat it. I guess I was referring to the fact that we are biologcal Herbavores so it makes sense to eat vegetarian.
Keep in mind, disease thrives in an acidic environment, hence people who eat lots of meat, cheese, milk, etc.
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if that nutritionist got well on raw, that is great! that is one reason why i tried it you have to have a really good coach nutritionist to make sure you are getting everything you need
you do feel better at FIRST then you start detoxing and detoxing and are starving all the time
but i tried it for a year or more very religously and i got sicker then ever and i went to the clinic that teaches it so I was being coached i did it all wheatgrass, sprouts, juicing, i was not the only one who did not get better, probably only a handful got better on the diet long term, also another thing was my cholesterol dropped so low and could no longer produce proper hormones
i think from my experience one should gradually do it instead of going 100 percent over night This way the body has a chance to detox and adjust
also i did not have the hcl to digest the raw food and you have to have hcl so if you try it make sure to add enzymes and what you need to digest it
i actually liked all the raw food and recipes better but i spent most of my time obsessing and stressing out about what to eat next it was extremely stressful
even though this raw did not work for me i still try to juice and eat alot of veggies
i do think if you try it and do not get better, you have to think twice to keep doing it, some do fine by just adding some eggs or fish....
i just think its good to have balance and for each person that may be different. I had a huge amount of money invested in this and it was dissapointing it did not help.
But some have no problem and its the one thing that helped. And I hope it does work for anyone that trys it.
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Just eat a normal, healthy diet, and dont do anything drastic. Avoid sugar, white flour products, artificial sweeteners, caffeine and junk foods and you should be fine. Juicing is great! Organic veggies too.
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Just got a sheet from my chiropractor about drinking raw unpasteurized apple cider vinegar.
2 tsp in 1/2 a glass of water with 1 tsp optional honey prior to meals alkalinizes us.
Sheet says to brush teeth after drinking it if not planning to eat, so as to prevent tooth enamel decay due to the acidity of the vinegar.
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I thought vinegar is realy bad for yeast.
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Lauralyme
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Vinegar is but Apple Cider Vinegar is different
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richedie
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I know Dr. B says no grains but I don't think it is bad to eat whole, intact grains like oats, buckwheat, etc. In fact, he should say do not over do meat! Meat because it is so acidic can lead to acidosis which contributes to arthritis and other problems. Meat and milk are very acidic so be careful. Just eat healthy I think and that is fine.
I eat lots of grains, brown rice, oats, plus other carbs, red potatoes, beans, etc. I was tested for candida and I am clean, or normal.
He says no starchy potatoes, but the Body Ecology book states red potatores are fine!
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THis is a great subject.. My mother is on the Macrobiotic diet .. She has cancer. and is insistant that it will help me.
I already avoid all Whites .. sugar flour and all processed foods. I eat fresh organic veggies and friuts. I juice both veggies and fruits as well as make blended smothies of various kinds.
I eat only some brown rice and some pinto beans... and once in awhile some corn tortillas.
I have Soy or Almond or Rice milk if I want milk and or cheese the same,
No Pastas or pototatoes or such...
I think I have it down to where I want it..
I though . find the macro biotic really wants you to eat sea weed and pickled plums and various other specilaty items and asks you to cook a certain way on a certain pan etc...
They want to get your body balanced Ying and Yang and also alkaline.
They also want you to chew your bites 50 to 100 times.. Try that one?
I have increased my chewing and that does help..
I will gag on the seaweed and such. I just can not get sea food down.. it has always been that way for me.. so.. though if I can find a fresh peice of fish I will have a little bit.
I do have some white chicked breast at times for added protien too..
So.. anyone see what I might be missing? Or should also do??
THANKS
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Body ecology diet book by Donna Gates Lots of really good info. www.bodyecologydiet.comPosts: 905 | From Santa Cruz,Calif | Registered: Aug 2005
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richedie
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You are fine on red skin potatoes. They are fine. I do not have candida issues and I have been on abx for a while and eat lots and lots of red potatoes. They are very low in sugar and are actually great as prebiotics.
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If you are going to have potatoes, suggest you let them cool before eating them. Read the following for the reasons why.
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