canefan17
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Are they in my muscles???
I've lost so much weight/muscle and I have knots all throughout my body.
Are these things camping out in there?
Will attacking the parasites help?
I don't think abx's get the bugs hiding in muscle tissue and organs.
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glm1111
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Nematodes (worms)love muscle tissue. Parasite cleansing would be wise. Lots of info here on lymenet about parasites
Also are you getting enough nutrition especially protein?
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canefan17
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glm,
I'd venture to say I eat more protein than anyone on this board lol
I used to be a fitness trainer and for many years have been high in protein.
I eat so much and continue to lose weight.
5'11 138 lbs
Was 160 lbs
I have so many parasites and tapeworms it's not even funny.
But my muscles are dwindled down to nothing and are just full of knots.
The ironic thing is...
The first time I ever started treatment (ceftin + doxy)... I herxed... but in all of my muscles I felt something invade them.
I KNEW something was invading them and I literally woke up with knots in my lower back, shoulder, neck, calf, HIPS.
I KNOW for a fact something is in there.
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Are you doing any antiparasitic cleansing? Is that how you know you have parasites/worms?
I have felt/feel them in my muscles also and when I started the salt/c they were exiting from my tissues after forming a scab.(YUK)
What about drinking smoothies with some high calories?
The owner of the lymephotos site suggests taking sea salt baths. Have you ever consulted with a ND? (naturopath)
Also check out curezone forums for more insight by googling curezone + parasites. This is such a nasty disease. Sorry you are having such a hard time. It will get better,
Gael
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canefan17
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I haven't done any anti-parasitic herbs yet.
I think my LLMD is putting me on Cowden this Thursday.
I also orderd Humaworm. I'm ready to get started now.
Sometimes I'm too eager : )
I want to take Malarone + ceftin + plaquenil and do humaworm. 1 month. knock as much **** out as possible.
I'll detox, i'll sleep, i'll eat, i'll exercise.
This HAS to get me ahead of the game in 1 month.
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It's awful to deal with this stuff. You have to do it gradually, though (in my opinion). It's not going to go away overnight. You body can only handle so much detoxing & killing.
I don't know the answer but I'm trying my best with all of this. I think it just takes time.
4 drops of the Nutramedix Quina has knocked me on my butt. I'm not taking any abx - so, that's some strong stuff. Just a warning so you don't overdo it.
The Cumanda was very strong for me, too. Just start off with 1 or 2 drops & work it up otherwise you may have the worst herx of your life.
We don't need to go through that to get well. It can be counter-productive.
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canefan17
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Thanks sparkle.
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You can go ahead and start taking Green black walnut hull tincture, wormwood and cloves now, can't you?
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sparkle7
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Re: black walnut, etc.
Yes. You can take it. It may make you ill if you have a big parasite problem, though. I took it for about 2 weeks & I had to stop. I got very ill & I passed alot of something that looked like some sort of fluke.
I took a break for a couple of months & then tried Humaworm. What kills one parasite may not work on another. You have to keep rotating the treatments.
I started taking some Quina so I'm going to go with that for a bit. I was going to do another round of the black walnut combo but the Quina is kicking my butt.
You may have to take something to absorb the toxins. I like Dr. Schulze's Intestinal Cleanse #2 but you can use whatever you like - clay, charcoal, psylium, etc.
After I did the killing with the black walnut combo, I did the Intestinal Cleanse #2 for about 5 days & it pulled alot of weird looking junk, mucus, eggs, etc. out of me.
It's gross but it's good to do.
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canefan17
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sparkle,
Doesn't the humaworm have something in it to absorb the toxins? Like a cleanser?
Or do they expect you to do that on your own?
I did get detox. I have Welchol... but that's a binder... not a detox/cleanser??
Those who took Humaworm what do you recommend?
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glm1111
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Humaworm has a cleanser that they suggest taking with the humaworm.
I believe it has mostly psyllium husk to help keep things moving so you don't get constipated. Also drink plenty of water.
Gael
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canefan17
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glm,
You are the man.psyllium is in the humaworm formula. So I don't think i need to add it.
Where does Humaworm rank as far as your treatment went/goes?
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glm1111
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Humaworm helped a lot, but salt/c is what helped get rid of the parasites the most. The key to any antiparasitic herbs is that they have to contain wormwood, black walnut hull and cloves.
Also rotating the herbs so the parasites don't build up resistence is important. Some people also use Dr. Natura and Hulda Clark.
I also use the in between herbs from humaworm. Persistence is key. I have been doing the antiparasitic herbs and salt/c for over 3 yrs and am close to remission.
Gael
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canefan17
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I found it. Just needed to search a little more.
Would most of you recommend stopping Welchol during this?
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