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susank
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Out of curiosity I have been researching this.
Found:
http://avmajournals.avma.org/doi/abs/10.2460/javma.2000.217.1045

If this link works and is of interest to anyone.

This article mentions bands: 31,34,37,39,41,58,93

I often wonder if human and animal researchers/doctors compare notes. For Lyme/TBI I wonder if the tests/methods are the same.

I had my horse tested last year. Neg.IFA test.
I had no idea of any other tests. I surely had no idea that there were animal tests that included bands. One would think that significant bands for horses would be the same for humans ie same spirochete, right?

Also seems that owners are not given grief by their vets/etc in regards to long-term high-dose ABx's. That is my interpretation so far.
Gotta wonder.

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Pos.Bb culture 2012
Labcorp - no bands ever
Igenex - Neg. 4 times
With overall bands:
IGM 18,28,41,66 IND: 23-25,34,39
IGG 41,58 IND: 39
Bart H IGG 40

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Pinelady
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I do think their immune systems are different in

many ways but I too am curious on the treatment

given. I do know most just treat with a course of

antibiotics and consider it done. I do believe a

lot more research has gone into animal studies than

we have gotten and as far as comparisons it should be interesting. Thanks for the link.

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Suspected Lyme 07 Test neg One band migrating in IgG region
unable to identify.Igenex Jan.09IFA titer 1:40 IND
IgM neg pos
31 +++ 34 IND 39 IND 41 IND 83-93 +
DX:Neuroborreliosis

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Yes, is there any mention of treatment in horses?

I know there is an infection in horse foals- Rhodococcus equi that uses the same meds we use for Bartonella sometimes- Rifampin and Biaxin.

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susank
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I'll try to find another link to post.
There was a study group of ponies.
Is an interesting read.
Seems like tetracycline "cleared" the Bb.

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Pos.Bb culture 2012
Labcorp - no bands ever
Igenex - Neg. 4 times
With overall bands:
IGM 18,28,41,66 IND: 23-25,34,39
IGG 41,58 IND: 39
Bart H IGG 40

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Here are two links.
The first should take you directly to the Zweig article in regards to Cornell and their study and treatment etc.
http://www.vet.cornell.edu/public/Research/zweig/Newsletter/2004-05/story3LymeD.htm

Another URL with more info, if interested:

http://www.vetpathology.org/cgi/content/full/37/1/68

Again, my curiosity about bands. Do the horse researchers study the flagella/spirochetes and come up with their own conclusions/hypothesis independent of the studies done for humans?

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Pos.Bb culture 2012
Labcorp - no bands ever
Igenex - Neg. 4 times
With overall bands:
IGM 18,28,41,66 IND: 23-25,34,39
IGG 41,58 IND: 39
Bart H IGG 40

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