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Below I will add the definition of Root Resorption for those not familiar with it. Here is where I need your help:
I found out 6 months ago that a previous root canaled tooth has root resorption. Its eating away from the inside out. There is a huge round area deep inside the root of the tooth and cannot be fixed, other than removing the entire tooth.
Lets go way way back to why I even had this tooth root canaled. I know there are lots of posts on this site regarding root canals and I have read most of them. I believe the first sign of "lyme" for me was when I had phantom tooth pain. I could barely stand the pain it was so bad. My dentist at the time could not find anything wrong with the achy tooth or anything wrong with any of my teeth. His only suggestion was a root canal and at the time I agreed to it because I didn't know the "so called controversies" associated with them. After he did the procedure, I broke out in 100's of bullseyes and whelts and hives. I was sick and had thought I was dying. This lasted an entire year and no one knew what was wrong with me. During that year, the tooth next to that root canaled tooth started hurting just like the other one. I then sought out another dentist and yet another root canal was performed although nothing was actually noted wrong with the tooth. I just wanted immediate pain relief and trusted these dentists. This was around 1994/1995.
Over the years, I have had pain, swelling, throbbing and generally achiness in those teeth and the surrounding area. I saw many dentists and specialists since then and they all told me they are dead teeth and there really should be no pain. Kinda like its all in my head stuff, you know!
So now fast forward to 6 months ago and I find out one root canaled tooth is now eating away from the inside out. I'm sick about this. I told the new dentist that I feel it's lyme related. He is not believing that for a second and wants solid evidence that lyme can cause problems with teeth.
Do any of you have articles, links or solid evidence to show him that lyme can cause tooth/dental problems? Yet another skeptic to deal with. I'm sick of all of them.
In dentistry, root resorption is the breakdown or destruction, and subsequent loss, of the root structure of a tooth. This is caused by living body cells attacking part of the tooth. When the damage extends to the whole tooth, it is called tooth resorption. Severe root resorption is very difficult to treat and often requires the extraction of teeth.
Root resorption occurs as a result of differentiation of macrophages into osteoclasts in surrounding tissue which, if in close proximity to the root surface will resorb the root surface cementum and underlying root dentine. This can vary in severity from evidence of microscopic pits in the root surface to complete devastation of the root surface.
Deciduous root resorption is a natural process which allows exfoliation of the primary teeth to make way for the secondary teeth. Deciduous root resorption is caused by osteoclast differentiation due to pressure exerted by the erupting permanent tooth.
Root resorption of secondary teeth can occur as a result of pressure on the root surface. This can be from trauma, ectopic teeth erupting in the path of the root, inflammation, excessive occlusal loading, aggressive tumours and growths. The most common cause in Western Society is orthodontic forces. (Weiland 2003)
Roots of teeth are covered with cementum. This is a structure that resembles bone. It is however more resistant to resorption than bone. There are a number of theories as to why this is the case. The most common hypothesis is that because cementum is harder and more mineralised than bone and has anti angiogenic properties, blood vessels are inhibited from forming adjacent to cementum which in turn prevents access to osteoclasts.
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I don't know if lyme causes root resorption or not, but I did have a tooth with this same problem, before my lyme diagnosis.
Ultimately, I was able to save the tooth, against the dentist, endodontist, surgeon, and everyone else's opinion that the tooth should be removed. So far it has lasted, and has been a number of years with no problems.
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Sorry for this comparison:
Anything dead will rot over time, whether you call it root resorption or something else. Dead body parts (that's what a root canaled tooth is) leak the worst carcinogen known to man that eventually distributes itself over the rest of the body. Look up thioethers and mercaptans. Anyone with breast cancer walking into Dr. K's office and a root canal, the root canal loses out. Root canals eventually all fail - and are the cause of many problems and one root canal leads to the next. The research is readily available.
Further, Root canals cause cavitations and they are bad because cavitations eventually eat your jawbone away taking away more and more of what you need to keep your teeth. Infection spreads. Spirochetes and other microorganisms love that terrain! and since oxygen/blood circulation is limited in dead tissue, their survival is assured.
Root canals took years away from my life, and I started to get well only after removal.
Take care.
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Thanks GiGi....I read that on this site before and on the internet many times. What I am looking for is solid evidence to provide to my dentist that this actually happens and that lyme disease can actually cause dental/teeth problems.
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Gert, I'm in the dental field and have lyme and company.
You want solid evidence on this and sadly you will not find it. No studies on it at all as far as dental studies nor any lyme literate studies. There might be some llmds that have their opinion on what they think on the subject, but no real studies on if this is a lyme thing or not.
There will be 'hear say' on what people have been through and speculation on 'dead' teeth and resorption.
I have years of dental books/magazines, and have worked with assisting with any and all problems with root canals and all procedures.
What is going on with you is not completely rare for anyone, with or without lyme.
I have many root canals and never any problem with them. Sometimes it's how the endo treated teeth were first done .... if they weren't cleaned the correct way, then problems like this and other problems can arise.
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I know that this is always a controversial debate but I have come to agree with Gigi on this subject.
I still am not willing to pull my teeth out at this point. My dentist has a patent on a ceramic implant which is not yet FDA approved. I guess I am waiting for that.
There are special dental xrays that may show an infection that is not showing on a regular xray. I had an endodontist tell me I was crazy when I told him my facial pain was coming from my tooth. I went to a facial pain guy and he did this special xray (sort of like a CT that shows slices of the jaw bone). This showed the infection and the endodontist went in and said the tooth was completely infected.
I also believe my teeth are a problem because when I take Flagyl all of my tooth pain goes away, my gums look better etc..
When I go off Flagyl the problems return.
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The Root Canal Research and allied dental matters has been done, years ago, and is still being done by Prof. Boyd Haley/Kentucky University and numerous others researchers. They testified before Congress. So not knowing is a poor excuse. Alternatives to present type root canals have been tried, just as unsuccessful, and dentists are not ready to throw lucrative income away and go right on doing more damage.
Implants without metals have been done in Europe for a number of years and everybody I know who has them is happy. If you wait too long until you have no bone left for an implant, the matter becomes more critical and not quite that simple.
And don't forget, lead is stored in the bone! That is how the body protects you. I am still detoxing lead after doing Allergie Immun and when every bone and jawbone aches as if I had done a 5 day marathon run, I know lead is still working to find its way out. It is a most amazing experience. I test energetically for the Dental Detox Biologo a day before eating becomes very sensitive, the sensitivity stops until the body starts to work on the next layer of dental toxins. The body is an amazing machine that will not stop as long as you give it some tools to work with, i.e. correct the misinformation/allergies in the DNA; then it will go to work and clear things out. No osteoporosis if you do everything else right and eliminate all other allergies assuring nutrient absorption.
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Every time I read about root canals, I get this sick feeling in my stomach. I have never had one, but my husband has had several.
How do you go about getting a doctor to remove them and get your insurance to pay for it?? Do you just tell them that you want the teeth extracted?
I know it's not my decision, but I think that if I could come up with a plan, my husband might go along with it.
I just don't want him to be toothless!! What do people do?
Sorry I sound so ignorant, but I have been pondering this situation for a while, and their are so many people here that know about these things.
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Weston Price Foundation might have some articles on the topic, not sure but worth a look.........
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