"the symptoms of aspirin overdose may have been difficult to distinguish from those of the flu, especially among those who died soon after they became ill."
Did The 1918 Spanish Flu Deaths Result From Aspirin-Induced Scurvy (Vitamin C Deficiency)?
"Yes, aspirin depletes the body of vitamin C. Aspirin is known as one of the most powerful drugs at depleting vitamin C in normally healthy individuals."
Big pharma and ignorant doctors.....100 years later and not much has changed.
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emla999/Lyme - It is very possible that this was a contributor, esp. since many of the people who died were deficient in Vit C anyway; given the diet of the day, war and all, not to mention availability of quality foods. Aspirin can be and is a wonder drug, but too much of a good thing, or any thing for that matter.
Interesting article, thanks for posting.
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- Thanks for the posts. Interesting about the aspirin and Vit. C depletion.
On a similar note:
I was just reading in that those with adrenal fatigue issues have much more trouble with the flu. That pretty much covers everyone with lyme. So, be careful and rest up.
There are various kinds of adrenal support outlined in Singleton's book, "The Lyme Disease Solution" and a search for "Adaptogens" will bring up good reading.
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"Adrenal Fatigue . . ." a book by James L. Wilson, N.D., D.C., Ph.D.
Excerpt from page 209:
" . . . respiratory infections are especially hard on the adrenal glands and fatigue them rapidly. . . . adrenal exhaustion was present on 103 of the 126 autopsied cases of mortality from the [1918] flu epidemic. In 3 other cases he even found adrenal hemorrhages and enlargement of the adrenal glands to twice their size. . . ." -
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"Patient B. CDC received an influenza specimen on April 17, 2009, that had been forwarded as an unsubtypable influenza A virus from the Naval Health Research Center in San Diego, California.
CDC identified this specimen as a swine influenza A (H1N1) virus on April 17, 2009, and notified the California Department of Public Health.
The source of the specimen, patient B, is a girl aged 9 years who resides in Imperial County, California, adjacent to San Diego County.
On March 28, 2009, she had onset of cough and fever (104.3�F [40.2�C]). She was taken to an outpatient facility that was participating in an influenza surveillance project,
treated with amoxicillin/clavulanate potassium and an antihistamine, and has since recovered uneventfully."
"Amoxicillin/clavulanate potassium is an oral antibacterial combination consisting of the semisynthetic antibiotic amoxicillin and the
β-lactamase inhibitor, clavulanate potassium (the potassium salt of clavulanic acid)."
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This is very interesting, thank you for the post and everyone's comments.
quote:Originally posted by Lymetoo: Possible. Lots of "sugar" though. I have to stay away from that too.
Thanks!!!
Lymetoo, if you are looking for a great source of Vitamin C without the pain from vitamin pills, or the sugars from citrus fruit, try making rose hip tea. You can get rose hips at most health food stores, or online. Try for the organic though - you don't want rose pesticides etc. in your tea.
Rose hips have the most Vitamin C of any food/herb, as far as I am aware, and it is much easier on the tummy than those Vitamin C pills ( I can totally relate to the problem!).
Happy to give you info on good places to buy, how to make a tasty tea, etc. PM me if you like.
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- Red Bell Peppers, too, have lots of vitamin C. I could eat 3 a day if they were not a dollar a piece. -
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quote:Originally posted by Keebler: Red Bell Peppers, too, have lots of vitamin C. I could eat 3 a day if they were not a dollar a piece.
It's true, I miss them a lot, since I can't eat nightshade plants anymore - I used to put them in everything.
However, Rose hips far surpass even Red Bell Pepper Vitamin C content by weight. If you are looking for supplementation, you might want to try them out. Here is a breakdown, from amounts gathered from wikipedia:
Rose Hips:
Particularly high in Vitamin C, with about 1700-2000 mg per 100 g in the dried product, one of the richest plant sources.
Bell Peppers:
Green Bell Pepper 100mg = 80.4 mg of Vitamin C
Red Bell Pepper has 3 times as much Vitamin C as a Green Bell Pepper. So 100mg = 241.2 mg (roughly) of Vitamin C
Sorry for the derail here, but I guess it is relevant to the topic, since aspirin causes such major Vitamin C depletion.
For those that can eat nightshades, which includes bell peppers, I would eat all of these! Why limit yourself, they're all delicious.
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Sorry to wonder, but there are more questions than answers in the articles. Many, many questions raised -- and few answers.
Sound familiar?
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From the article...
*** "The Journal of the American Medical Association suggested a dose of 1,000 milligrams every three hours, the equivalent of almost 25 standard 325-milligram aspirin tablets in 24 hours. This is about twice the daily dosage generally considered safe today." ***
I wouldn't worry too much, Lymetoo. What you are taking is a far cry from 4,ooo-8,000 mg. of aspirin a day.
One thing the article doesn't cover is all the vaccination for virtually EVERYTHING that was taking place prior to this 1918 flu pandemic.
I suspect that had a huge impact on who became susceptible to the flu then, also.
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Usually...viruses can be more easily destroyed by higher temperature than can bacteria...so the fever may have helped.
During the avian flu outbreak:
"Heat, extremely low or high pH, and dryness can inactivate avian influenza viruses. Heating buildings to 90 to 100 degrees F for one week has been used to inactivate influenza viruses." (poultry farm - prevent the spread of that virus)
Why did the docs give an abx. and antihistamine to that young girl who had H1N1 when we are told (over and over!)that abx. do NOT cure viruses?
A fever is the body's way to fight...don't be too fast to reduce it.
Cold...reduces inflammation and reduces oxygen demand.
Immediate cold therapies (even so far as iced IV solutions) can be extremely helpful in some cases (spinal cord injuries). They prevent the inflammation and buy time for the docs to repair the damage.
Re-warming must be done slowly as the sudden change will likely release a lot of inflammatory cytokines 'cause inflammation is part of healing...it is just supposed to shut off -eventually.
Ongoing inflammation is very bad.
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