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sparkle7
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I heard this doctor on the radio last night...

http://web.me.com/moolguy/Dr._Bs_Blog/Dr._Bs_Blog/Entries/2009/9/6_The_Truth_About_Lyme_Disease.html

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The Truth About Lyme Disease

If you spoke with almost any allopathic doctor in the country they would recommend a plethora of pharmaceutical drugs to try and beat out the spirochete that they claim came from a tick bite and into an unsuspecting hiker, thereby causing Lyme disease.

The growing epidemic of "Lyme disease� that is spreading rapidly through this country, and continuing on through most of the industrialized countries of the world, is not from the bite of a tick, and cannot be cured by your neighborhood doctor�s pill collection.

This epidemic has been blamed on a spirochete that is transmitted by the bite of a tick and, frankly, that is wrong! Approximately 30% of all Lyme disease cases have NEVER had a tick bite. So, you may ask, where does Lyme come from?

There are multiple physicians who are trying to treat Lyme disease by using antibiotics. Their antibiotic treatments, sometimes lasting for years, do not produce consistent results. This proves to me that it is not the germ that is causing this disease.

I do not believe in the germ theory of disease, which came from Louis Pasteur. Rather, I place belief in the theory Antoine Bechamp proposed. This theory, along with the therapies that I have selected to accompany it, has helped me produce positive results in 80% of Lyme patients the first time they come to my office.


Pasteur's rival, Antoine Bechamp, believed that germs grow in the diseased body. Germs adapt and change according to the pH and chemistry of the terrain of the physical body in which they live. Following Bechamp�s theory, we look for stagnant �ponds� and key inflammation areas in which the germ is growing.

What I have found recently is that the biggest cause of a stagnant �pond� is a surgical scar. At the base of the surgical scar there is a great deal of inflammation, as the body is attempting to heal.

Thwarting this attempt, the scar acts as a disturbance field blocking innate healing ability. When I treat a scar using neural therapy and isopathic remedies (to heal the inflammation), the results in Lyme disease patients are dramatic.

The cure of Lyme disease is directly related to breaking the stagnation that causes trapped inflammation. If you look for and treat the surgical scars, you will find that they are the most common cause of obstruction and trapped inflammation. Essentially, those with Lyme are analogous to a car that is running on only four cylinders.

I am searching for the reason why the �car� is running on fewer cylinders. By releasing stagnation, I allow the car to run on eight cylinders again.


In younger people with Lyme disease there is yet another common area that I find trapped inflammation. Intra-uterine trauma, birth trauma, or physical distress can cause the formation of the stagnant pond, and therefore trapped inflammation.

These patients often display symptoms of Lyme, yet they have never undergone surgery. By treating the area of intra uterine trauma, birth trauma, or distressed area, accompanied with osteopathic or cranial sacral adjustments, I am able to affect the same change as treatment of surgical scars in older patients.


I believe that the greatest American physician was Andrew Taylor Still, the founder of Osteopathy. I believe his words should be used to create The Ten Commandments of biological medicine and disease. One of his great quotes is "Disease cannot exist where there are no obstructions".

We have fluid flows and energy flows that are constantly moving around the body. Obstruction to those flows will create a stagnant pond, and in that stagnant pond germs will morph into different forms in order to adapt.

For example, algae will grow in a stagnant pond, but not in flowing water. Remember, germs are constantly changing and adapting to their environment. Therefore, treating the environment of the body is always more important than treating the germ.


If you can begin to accept and incorporate the above concept, that it is not the germ that we should focus on for true health, but rather the terrain, you will see and understand the true nature of disease.

And, you will begin to create a vital body with no symptoms of Lyme disease.

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Thanks for posting, Sparkle.

I'm not sure how much faith to place in this.

For instance, I don't think that germs and terrain are mutually exclusive. Clearly, there is some manipulation of terrain going on with these bugs -- and there very well may be preexisting weakness that allow some of us to get so much sicker than others. But I don't think that there is enough information available to know exactly what is happening yet.

But, it seems to me that there are bugs, Lyme and HIV come to mind, that can make a mess regardless of terrain, having taken down plenty of healthy robust people, athletes and the like. But I may be wrong here; in these cases there may have been preexisting conditions that we're not aware of.

I do wonder what HB means when he says he has had, " ... positive results in 80% of Lyme patients the first time they come to my office."

80% positive results ... the first visit?

Really?

Cure?

Remission?

Feel pretty good?

Left the office more confident and encouraged?

I would rather know how many, if followed, make any kind of significant and sustained improvement with his therapies? But then again, I would like to know that figure from all LLMDs.

And when HB says:

"Approximately 30% of all Lyme disease cases have NEVER had a tick bite."

How does he know that? Knowing what we do about ticks, it seems more likely that 30% of Lyme patients never feel a tick bite, and therefore don't recall having had one.

One of the posters on this board, a CFS patient, saw this doctor and posted blog entries about his experience. I don't remember what the results were. I would put a link here to that blog, but I lost the bookmark in a computer crash, and I forgot the name of the blog and haven't been able to relocate it since. (Too bad, because he was a good writer.)

I think it was m0joey who kept that blog, and was treated by that doc. It would be interesting to get his perspective on this.

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Ive always been interested in the whole scar thing. I heard a well known LLMD talk about it and I wondered why it was important.

Saturday I saw a webcast with Dr. C o w. he talked about treating scars. I am going to order the stuff for scars.

The reason I am intersted is that I had a growth removed on my leg. It came back as Bowens disease. I beleive it may be where I was bitten.

anyhoooo. I got a test on the Asyra machine and the top hit was a bizarre skin disease on 2 occasions. When I had the tinture made for my issues, I took the drops and had SEVERE pain where my scar was. Really bizarre. Never had that.

It now makes sense that it blocks the meridians.

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people do neural therapy and laser therapy to treat scars successfully. great help for flow and clearing things.
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Yes, this is an interesting theory about scar tissue. I was doing a bit of reading on neural therapy, too. I agree with you nomoremuscles. I don't think his estimates on "cure rate" are accurate. It's always hard to tell about those things.

Also, I agree that germ & terrain aren't mutually exclusive. I guess the terrain theory was suppressed - so, it's a bit of a backlash mentality from my point of view. People want to think that each excludes the other.

Haley - re: Saturday I saw a webcast with Dr. C o w. he talked about treating scars. I am going to order the stuff for scars.

What is suggested (re: stuff for scars)?

I found this - on bromelain -

http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/bromelain.html

http://www.smartbodyz.com/Bromelain-pineapple-benefits-papain-use-enzymes-Dose.htm

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I also wonder if these scars can be psychological...? As in mind-body connection...?

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Here is the email I received from Dr. Cow:

The Living Clay is a sterile calcium bentonite clay that works well to draw
toxins out of a scar so that the acupuncture meridian(s) that run through
the scar can start functioning better again. The clay mud works better if
there is one part of Cicatrix liquid for every 2-3 parts of water that are
used to make the bentonite clay powder into a mud. These items can be
ordered from NatuRx.net (480-361-8410) or from [email protected]
(972-410-8020). Only one scar can be treated per day without risk of
dumping excessive toxins into the blood from the action of the clay mud on
the scar & making the patient sick. If Cicatrix is used to make the mud, the
mud is applied to the first scar for 10 minutes, then wiped off or washed
off; then fresh wet mud is again immediately applied to the same scar for
another 10 minutes, then the mud is wiped off or washed again; then fresh
wet mud is applied a third time to the same scar for a final 10 minutes & is
washed off. Another scar can be treated the same way the next day (or
several days later if time is not available sooner). Other scars can be
treated at a rate of no more than one scar per day until all scars are
treated. On the last day of scar treatment, all scars that have been
treated with clay mud up to that point are treated all on one day.

[ 03-10-2011, 02:52 PM: Message edited by: Haley ]

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Thanks!
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I was interested here because I have a good bit of scarred up areas, where I believe bugs have made homes.

But those numbers quoted were pretty off-putting.

You are probably right, Sparkle, about the backlash from germ theory to terrain theory being the cause. But I think many of us have seen that both, bugs and body, need to be addressed in some way.

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From what I heard, the Rockefellers made a decision to suppress herbs, homeopathic, etc. in favor of a big pharmaceutical model of medicine. Alot of "alternative" medicine was suppressed...

So, people involved in the alternatives want to pump up the effectivness of their treatments. Maybe just for presentation in the media (I heard this doctor on the radio)..? I think it goes back to Pasteur, too.

Both models should have been developed but one was apparently suppressed... like Rife... I think both concepts have their place. I prefer alternative medicine since I can research things & do it on my own.

I'm not against allopathic medicine, though. Scar tissue does play a role in illness. I kow someone who had a big problem with internal scar tissue in their colon. I could see it being an "energetic" issue, too. May even be a psychological issue, as well...(?)

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Does anyone know pro's or con's about neural therapy (injections) versus laser therapy on scars?
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