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lymetwister
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http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5386448n&tag=contentMain;contentBody

This guy is calling it "The Kanzius Machine".

Watch the Video, same thing IMHO. Wasn't Royal Rife doing this ?

Radio Frequency Ablation, isn't this already happening ?

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Yeah, I've heard of it. I think it's slightly different from Royal Rife's machine.

Thanks for posting this!

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Kanzius uses frequencies to heat up nano particles of Iron, which is injected into the patient. This produces a hyperthermia effect on Cancer. Cancer tends to suck up Iron. I do not think it has been used on humans yet.

It uses frequencies, but it is a different mechanism.

Dr. Holt of Australia used a frequency method to heat up Cancerous tissue to treat Cancer also, but no nano particles.

The original Rife frequency treatment used frequencies to kill the virus or nanobacteria that he believed was the cause of some Cancers. Some frequencies used today probably target the Cancerous cells directly.

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This was on 60 minutes or 20 20 or something tonight. I saw the whole show.

Very interesting stuff. I hope it helps treat cancer and maybe more someday

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It is NOT the same as RIFE. Do NOT get them mixed up. Kanzius is being tested using real scientific method. Real peer review.
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Dare we mention the guy self treating himself with 'radio frequency' died ?

And although validated research has been successful with rodents-the clinical trials on humans has yet to be started. But I'm glad they are doing the trials ethically , scientifically and not just theoretically and for profit.

I thought it was nanoparticles of gold?

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The inventor of the machine didn't inject himself with the Gold Nanoparticles, I recall it said in the segment, as he was treating cancer in his blood.

The idea (as I understand it) is to heat up the gold nanoparticles using radio waves of the same the resonant frequency as gold (remember the film about the bridge: http://fragg.me/video/tacoma-bridge ).

According the the item on 60 minutes, the nanoparticles are created in such a fashion to target and attach only to cancerous cells:

(the following link takes you to the entire item)

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5394576n&tag=contentMain;cbsCarousel

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I am quite sure it is being done for a potential profit. That is why he had research money to work with. It is a patented system of Cancer treatment, that is still in the research stage.

You will find a pattern of low profit potential Cancer treatments not getting funded, or having a difficult time getting funded. The ones with huge profit potential do not have that problem. It really only makes sense that people who invest in something are looking for a profit potential.

The researchers that study unpatented, unprofitable Cancer treatments are also well aware of the challenges ahead of them. This quote is from one researcher studying DCA as a Cancer treatment.

"However, as DCA is not patented, Michelakis is concerned that it may be difficult to find funding from private investors to test DCA in clinical trials. He is grateful for the support he has already received from publicly funded agencies, such as the Canadian Institutes for Health Research (CIHR), and he is hopeful such support will continue and allow him to conduct clinical trials of DCA on cancer patients."

http://www.depmed.ualberta.ca/dca/

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http://anirritatingtruth.blogspot.com/2009/02/dca-cancer-cure.html

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I watched the 60 minute segment last night. It does not look like this new technology is the same as rife. Cooking a tumor vs oscillation.

I'm sure research money is available for this because of the high potential for profit. Cost of nonparticles + use of machine.

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"John Kanzius died from pneumonia. The pneumonia developed as complication after two recent rounds of chemotherapy."

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John Kanzius had also received over 36 rounds of chemo. His doctor admitted that the toxicity of treatment caused him tremendous damage- and that the type of cancer he had was particularly difficult.
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[ 10-19-2009, 01:13 PM: Message edited by: Keebler ]

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My understanding is that the Kanzius and Rife machines both work using oscillation.

The difference is that Kanzius introduces gold particles. As we know the resonant frequency of gold, we dial in that frequency which heats the gold particles and destroys the cells surrounding the gold particles.

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So. .. is this new machine use the concept of HEATING up the cancer cell and the EEAT kills the cells.

The Rife does not use heat right? Just oscillarion?

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You are correct that hyperthermia of tissues is not part of Rife type frequency treatments.

The wave length is too long to promote heating, although people that treat Cancer sometimes report a heating sensation when using it. Probably a physiological response.

The European Oncotherm device uses both Hyperthermia and Rife frequencies to treat Cancer, but they are two distinctly different methods. Well over 100,000 people have been treated using this method. Over twenty clinical trials have been done on this device in various countries.

None of these devices exist in the U.S. for Cancer treatment to my knowledge.

http://www.rife.de/oncotherm_-_rife_and_hyperthermia.html

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The modified centralized review process is supposed to make Cancer research less costly. This is a big problem since in the National Cancer Institutes own words, it can cost more than a billion dollars, and take up to ten years to bring a new treatment to market.

Read about it at.

http://www.nih.gov/news/health/oct2009/nci-19.htm

Dan

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Mr. Kanzius passed away from his cancer in February, 2009. His idea was born in a Sanibel, Florida garage.

Before he died he worked with M.D.Anderson in Houston and also Lee Memorial Hospitals in Fort Myers and another hospital in Erie, PA.

He lived part time in Sanibel, Florida and Erie, PA. His wife continues his work.

He left a research foundation Kanzius Research Foundation

He was written about in our Fort Myers, Fl newspaper and well thought of in our area.

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Now what we need are gold nanoparticles designed to target borrelia burgdoferi...

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