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I know we've all been told to avoid this stuff like that plague. I've used mostly Splenda for the last few years thinking it was "probably" OK or at least better.
Hubby has been drinking diet soda for a long time and then coming home and drinking Crystal Lite. We both have lyme and it's so easy to say everything is lyme.
For a long time now hubby has been having dizziness pretty much all the time. Been to ENT and of course nothing shows up.
I've been wracking my brain or what's left of it to figure it out. There was a post the other day on here by I think Grandmother and it got me to thinking and researching. Thank you GM. I hope that's who it was.
Anyway, I printed off the symptoms of AP and gave it to hubby. He has almost all of them. We both stopped all artificial sweetners Monday. We're using Stevia now.
Anyway, yesterday was the first day he has had with no dizziness. I think we are on to something here.
Could it be possible that my lyme is better but I have aspertame poisioning? Only time will tell I guess.
I just wondered if anyone else felt like they have had this? I think I'm having some withdrawals from what I've read about it.
The post the other day about me hearing echos I think is from that. It didn't feel like anything I've had before. I had it again yesterday but it goes almost as quick as it comes.
I really think a lot of symptoms I'm experiencing now is from the withdrawal. I just have to figure out the best way to detox.
Anyone have the book Sweet Poison? I just wondered what the dr that wrote it recommended to use to detox. May try to check and see if the library has it. I've never been good about detoxing but have really seen the importance of it lately. Evidently it takes a while for things to sink in for me which is sad. :0(
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I drink a good amount of diet pop too. Hmm...
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Ugly ugly ugly stuff !
Had a 30 year old patient once with lots of balance problems. A tech that ran a machine to check balance figured it out.
This lady said after a 3 day avoidance before a test she then drank 3 diet sodas on the way home + had to physically CRAWL up her front steps.
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sapphire - Sounds like classic aspartame 'head-spin' to me. I've had the problem with dizziness on only 2 Diet Cokes per day, so I can imagine how much your hubby is ingesting. Also, my friend's mother had extreme dizziness (not Lyme) and after drinking 10+ Diet Dr. Pep's per day! I told her about the aspartame and she stopped drinking them. Her dizziness also stopped immediately. Never another problem.
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I was a Diet Coke addict, but the wonderful people here have convinced me to break the habit. No artificial sweeteners, no caffiene. I think stopping the DC has helped with the dizzies and general loopiness. I had one the other day, and it didn't feel good.
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I truly believe this was another layer of my downfall. I used alot of that stuff daily.
I've not touched it since '02 and I cringe when I see family & friends using it. I've told them each how toxic it is. They seem to think it helps with their weight?
Everyone of them is overweight or obese???? Hello!!
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As usual, I drink gallons of Crystal Light, use aspartame, and drink diet sodas and have never had any problem--for decades!
However, people can have an allergy to phenylalanine. My brother thinks aspartame causes him GI problems. He avoids it.
I read a long time ago that aspartame was created in the late 50s as a potential cancer fighter. It didn't work but someone accidentally tasted it.
It allows me to avoid 1000s of extra calories each day. I read that the body sees it as cellulose (like corn kernals and splenda) and therefore passes it through your system without digestion.
(I seem to need things to be MUCH sweeter than the average person, like an 8 year old. My theory is that I have an unusually high ratio of sour taste buds to sweet ones--sounds good but completely without supporting evidence. I cannot palate the taste of beer or wine or spicy foods).
Anyway, I guess it's another thing that I've personally have had not problem with.
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Thank you all for your input. Hubby has no dizziness today either so I really think this is a lot of his problem.
My head is just crazy weird today including my ears. I think I'm gonna go get in the sauna and see if that helps. I'm almost positive this is from withdrawal as it's different than anything I've had.
Can someone tell me how much chlorella to take? I've got to find some other ways to detox. I've never been one to drink a bunch of water but I'm trying.
Thanks again for your input.
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sapphire,
There was a huge fight years ago when Aspartame was submitted to FDA for approval as an artificial sweetner. Many fought against it because Aspartame metabolizes as formaldehyde in the brain (thus causing the dizziness, as your brain gets pickled). Eventually, the food companies won the fight and the FDA decided, in it's infinite wisdom, that it wasn't enough formaldehyde to hurt anyone.
You can find all sorts of references to this, just Google.
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James, if you've never had any problems (I guess you are refering to health) why are you on this board?
Seems to me YOU have an agenda going?
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Thanks Ping, I've read some of it and it is enough for me that I will never touch it again. I have found out too that you have to read every label as they are putting it in things you wouldn't think about.
I'm really hoping I can recover some from this dead (pickled) brain I have. My short term memory is so bad that it's embarrassing. I know that could be lyme also but I'm so hoping it's not.
My mom has alzheimers and I'm so afraid I will end up like her. I'm her caregiver and it's so hard. I don't want my kids to have to deal with that.
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Pam, geez James has said MANY times he's fighting Babesia and is on high-dose Mepron. Not enough? )
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- Aspartame is toxic to everyone. Splenda, too, is very dangerous. All artificial sweeteners should be totally avoided - totally.
Lyme patients just seem more affected. Not even a trace should pass our lips. Check all labels, even cough drops and some medicines. It is very toxic to nerve cells and can cause seizures and damage to the brain.
Most LLMDs advise their patients not to consume any artificial sweeteners. To do so will compromise their chances of getting better.
He's not a LLMD but be sure to read all you can from Dr. Russell Blaylock regarding this topic:
Dr. Blaylock is a board certified neurosurgeon, author and lecturer . . .
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Stevia - from a plant - is a good thing. But, TRUVIA is not pure stevia. Be sure to find stevia with no additives such as Truvia has done to cuts costs. -
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quote:James, if you've never had any problems (I guess you are refering to health) why are you on this board?
Seems to me YOU have an agenda going?
Pam, what is your agenda? You're attacking me? I guess you never read my posts. But if that's the case maybe you should before you become confrontational.
Besides there are MANY people here who were cured of lyme but continue to contribute to this community.
I've had lyme for 26 years, babs for 5, in treatment for 18 months. I'm on 5 abx.
What I don't have is problems with many of the ancillary issues that others have. No probs with abx, aspartame, asst foods, exercise, and countless other things that have come up that other people struggle with.
Your attitude is very petty and exclusionary. What exactly are the proper credentials for being in this forum?
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Aspartate is the main component of aspertame. Both break down into Aspartic acid. This is an excitatory neurotransmitter, and is classified as an excitotoxin.
From wikipedia: "Excitotoxicity is the pathological process by which nerve cells are damaged and killed by glutamate and similar substances."
I once took just one dose of Magnesium Aspartate from a local vitamin store, and I went absolutely manic, almost to the point of hospitalization.
This is a dangerous excitotoxin, and I never want to touch the stuff again.
If you are worried about permanent damage from this excitotoxin, stop all ingestion of the chemical, and start protecting your delicate nerve cells with supplements that have been proven to reduce excitotoxicity, such as lithium orotate and Omega 3s.
Be careful with over use, or even general use, as this chemical may one day be linked as a contributing cause of degenerative diseases, seizures, or psychological diseases such as bipolar disorder, due to its known properties of nerve damage and over excitation of nerve cells.
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HI, Shows to me if Govt. keeps allowing this with all info out. What else doe`s Govt. Allow to poison us??? Sure not just sugar sub.
As in insects they use for testing All time & let t to check results???Hmmmmm On Humans so doe`s Europe, why so widespread there, only diff.strains.?????? Just makes 1 wonder????
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I think I've finally convinced my husband to switch from diet soda to stevia. I don't think he had any symptoms from it but seems just like a good idea to avoid it, especially with the Lyme/coinfections stressing the brain.
I make lemonade every day from fresh lemons and stevia. Seems to work for the sweet tooth.
Does anyone have any concerns about the safety of stevia?
Thanks,
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I stopped aspartame years ago and started using splenda. Then a friend said that splenda killed some ants that ate it off her counter. That was enough to convince me that it is bad stuff.
I stopped all artificial sweetners about 4 years ago. My condition has improved but I can't determine how much improvement is from stopping artificial sweetners and how much is from lyme treatment.
My sister and daughter both have bad reactions to aspartame. Not sure what it does to my sister but it causes my daughter to have headaches.
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Update, today is day 6 off the poison. I cannot believe the difference in my husband. Very little dizziness now compared to all day long.
He would get up dizzy and go to bed dizzy. He has been sick so long and you start thinking it's all lyme. We have a glimmer of hope again.
I'm feeling much better also. My head has finally cleared up but not totally. I had the best day yesterday that I've had in a long long time.
I will never touch the stuff again. I'm definitely a label reader now. Can't believe they put that in so much stuff.
My daughter has also stopped using it. She accidentally chewed a piece of gum that had it in it the other day and got a headache. Could have been coincidence but it was enough to convince her. She's a lable reader too now.
Thanks for all the replies.
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- No coincidence. At least four times, unknowingly, I've had something with aspartame in it and, within minutes have gotten hit with a seizure.
You'd think I would have learned after the first two, but these times were all months (or years) apart and I did ask the person who made the food (at a potluck) but people ALWAYS seem to forget when they add this - or MSG (which does the same thing to my brain).
After my brain settles, days latter, I'd call and ask for the recipe for that delicious (whatever) and THEN they remember that they added Equal or Nutrasweet - or Soy Sauce (gluten) or a secret term that stands for MSG.
I can no longer trust. -
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I don't blame you for not trusting Keebler. I have seizure like episodes and if I could avoid them I would. They are very scary for me as well as my family.
Wouldn't it be nice if this fixed it? Probably just wishful thinking but time will tell I guess.
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