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Thus is my 2nd week in pain and just barely sleeping. I hurt my back when I coughed. Just left side and also that hip and down my front thigh. The thigh is also partially numb. Been trying acupuncture, soft tissue massage, adjustments, advil, Tylenol, muscle relaxant and none are helping yet. Cant keep taking this pain. My doc wants to try 6 days of steroids and physical therapy. Talked to 1 lymie whose been pretty ill and is now improving and she advised just take them bc now your body is fighting lyme and a back issue. She had to do the same for another pain issue and said it helped her. Also taking bcq and curcumin. I don't think I have any other options now. And I won't do narcotics.
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I'm having cervical issues and I'm afraid they will want to do steroid shots.
we're kind of stuck.
sure hope you improve soon. im also on 2, well, since june 9th, with very little sleep.
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- Steroids do not heal. They decrease inflammation and, thereby, pain which helps yet
steroids can turn some of the bone / cartilage tissue to mush so it's important to study that risk. As well, shots can cause lyme to blossom. Shots do not stay right there and are absorbed throughout the body and hang around for up to six months.
For both of you: you might consult as osteopathic doctor -- one who is trained in UPLEDGER technique. There is no sudden twisting or the like.
If you have images, take those so the doctor can properly assess whether a skeleton / full body cranial sacral path might help.
MAGNESIUM is also to be seriously studied. some people need 2,000 a day . . always in divided doses, 3 -4 x day.
Other nutrients also to be assessed.
Bledweis' article speaks to this happen a lot with lyme. The tension in the muscles is so tight that it can cause vertibrae to slip.
he stated that magnesium and massage (or the like) can be very important but, ultimately, if lyme has not been adequately addressed, the toxicity of lyme is what causes the muscles to be so tight as well.
of course, there can be various causes but between your LLMD (if you have one) and a proper assessment by someone trained in UPLEDGER . . .
I'd do that long before even thinking about any invasive or steroid steps. It may be covered by insurance. See if there are some trained in this near you:
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- It can take a while and may strain the eyes, but well worth the time to find the passage about how tight muscles can throw a vertebrae . . . or cause a pitched nerve.
I also suggest getting an evaluation from someone trained in
FELDENKRAIS regarding body ergonomics. That would be the next step, though after second opinion /assessment by an Upledger doctor with your images in hand and after a hands-on evaluation. -
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6hyp, my person that does myofascial release/cranial sacral body work, travels to Chicago to see her person that works on her. Are you interested in someone else working on you.
IMO, steroids is not the way to go. If you've only had body work and accupunture done in the last 2 weeks...I'd say you've not had enough or the right type of work done on you. They haven't touched the exact place on you that needs attention.
If you are against pain meds....steriods is just another poison immune suppresant that could flip you upside down.
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- Exactly what Pam is talking about -- the trigger point / myofascial release. The right kind of cranial sacral body work looks at entire body . . . and they locates the trigger point that are pulling.
It is simply not enough to be told that a vertebrae is slipped or that a nerve is pinched. I want to know why, how, exactly.
If there has been no accident, especially, no hard hitting trauma . . . the reason for this must be identified before any action is taken if it could have risks (and steroids have huge risks).
If one part of the skeleton is out of line, that can cause havoc in other places, maybe not even in that area.
Think of a sweater that has a pulled thread. Often the sweater will be all off kilter until the source of the pulled thread is found, addressed and the rest of the sweater can then be allowed to fall back in shape.
Of course, this may not be what's happening but it's best to consult an expert in this approach for a proper assessment and their thoughts - most doctors have no training or understanding of this.
Be sure whomever you see that they have extensive training & certification in this field. There is a certain method to gradually working into the main "trigger" or knots. It's very specific. -
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Different kinds for different purposes . . . timing . . . upper level dosing. And know that some kinds affect the bowels while other kinds do not at all.
Not just to help muscles relax and to stop the over active neuro hits . . .also to help lessen inflammation. -
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I tried the upledger link but it didnt exist. What page were you referring to? I have no xrays as those are useless with this injury. A disc problem can only be seen on an mri, which she didnt order. She said at this point it may not be covered anyway. Have you had this type of pain? It's not something you can wait around to fix. My limitations have increased even more due to this pain. They do cranial sacral at the place I go to though I don't know if it's a specific type. Map--yes I'm Interested if they are in the suburbs and are covered. I take about 500 mg of mag glycinate.
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- When URLs change, just type the name into Google to find them, then. I can see now they have changed so you will find the link below.
you might also see if your insurance will cover OSTEOPATHIC physicians.
You can talk to the people where you go about the method of cranial sacral but they FIRST must have the extensive knowledge of a doctor like an osteopathic physician to make the best assessment BEFORE then even touch you.
Study the Upledger detail so you know how they are different.
Images include any report of any image test, even if you don't have the pictures, though sometimes you might be able to get the actual pictures sent to another doctor for them to view, in addition to the written report that you were given. -
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Find a practitioner in your area. -- but since you need assessment, it's best to find a D.O. rather than, say, a PT who would not do assessments but only the treatment. --
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Magnesium glycinate is high oxalate .. that can contribute to pain issues.
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- Good point TuTu makes. Magnesium is still super important, though. There are various forms. There are several seemingly good looking search results at Google for a search of:
. . . Pros and cons of the different types and formulations of magnesium . . .
What types of magnesium supplements are best for low oxalate dieters? . . . -
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- I've not had a slipped disc though I've had some extremely knarly back and spine issues. Massage helped me the most, though all the other things suggested did, too.
Ultimately, it's good to get a good cross section of expert advise for exactly what shows for your back. There can be various modalities to help but usually each "expert" will have their own way and may not share all the other ways to look at it or work with it, or correct it.
Potassium also matters. Deficiency in that can also cause muscle tightness.
That's another study in and of itself as the recommended daily amount is 4,700 mg and most vegetables, fish, meat don't have anywhere near all that when added at the tend of the day.
And supplements are limited to 99 mg. Too much can cause the heart to go pitter patter in odd ways, though. It's all about enough but not too much - and consistency.
Very tricky. Be sure you get the best balance of all the minerals.
To check the amount of key nutrients in any real food, for most you can Google
[food name], whfoods
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Tmk, I dont have oxalate issues. I take that form b/c of my nerve pain. That was listed as the best one for nerve stuff.
I'd like massage but you literally cannot press certain parts in my back or it hurts too much, and sends pain right to my hip and thigh. I'm way too hypertonic for any type of massage now. I need for the inflammation to go down.
I'd like an MRI, and I thought my MD would recommend it, but she said ppl rarely get them at this beginning stage. I just really wanna know if it's a disc. A lymie on another board said steroids made her pain worse and PT didnt help her. Yet another said it helped and had no issues.
My ND-based chiro said 6 days should be ok. It's long term I should not do. I mean I need to sleep more than 3 hrs a night. It's been 11 days of that.
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6hyp, I had the wrong city. She told me which site to go to find MFR (myofascial release) in Chicago.
Here is a trusted site of therapists by state and you can also do by zip code on MFR site.
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- Even a few days, even one day or one shot can be a risk. Steroids stay in the body for up to six months, too. I hope you can read the articles here that are specific to lyme. Lyme changes everything. Steroids can make lyme blossom.
If you use steroids - at all - please be sure you have an air tight action plan for how to (hopefully) keep your body - and your future - safe. If you have an LLMD or even a prior one whom you could call for advice on this, that would be best.
the two herbs you mention are good support, however not sure if they offer enough protection in the face of steroids.
Steroids depress the immune response. Oh, pain does, too, for sure I certainly understand the siren's call here but there is not enough space here to share the disasters - long term - that various kinds of shots or - oh, just a 7 or 10 day pill pack caused.
Look at all the football players who have relied on steroids to block pain so they could still play. It's not so clear cut as to what happens in weeks, month, and even years later.
Topic: what do STEROIDS actually do to those with lyme? Risks, long term damage discussed. Links. -
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- Finding the SOURCE, I call it "Knot #1" or the "instigator"
where does all this stream from? And it may not be where you think.
The thing with any treatments an osteopathic physician who uses the Upledger approach or one that might be similar
is that they first evaluate. They know how to trace the source of pain.
They might first order some kind of imaging, though, sometimes just looking at the way your body "presents" and your description they might be able to offer some relief in the first treatment.
Pam also suggests similar treatment - but they don't just dig in - they find the source - and gently, very gently, step by step can work to lessen the grip on the trigger point / the SOURCE.
If anything out of the ordinary, they would refer to someone for more specific evaluation or imaging. And they would likely know just who is best at that.
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One session is quite expensive. I earn around 3500 per year. I am seeing a bio dentist for 165 next week. I am drowning in debt. I expect she'd probably want me to come for several sessions. I am not looking to keep taking steroids as athletes do. Just loosen things enough to where I can feel my thigh again (I dunno how much damage I'm doing with it numb for so long) to be able to go to phys therapy. Would Cortef be a better choice?
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I am supposed to be starting PT soon. Not sure about this........
In the past I had Iontophoresis with Dex treatment at chiro's. (shoulder). It helped tremendously. IIRC with "I" the Dex stays local - not systemic. Helps with pain and inflammation.
I had doctor appt. (orthoped) this past week - he said something about nerves swelling. I asked him to repeat that - nerves can swell?
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what can you do to support the body after steroids? since even one shot is bad, what do peple do who had mutiple rounds?
I worry for my sister. every time I talk to her , she's on dose pak, or jus finishing a round of shots for her neck. now those idiots, yes idiots, want to do shots for supposedly "bad knees"..wth...
I'll buy whatever will help her but, god knows if she'll take anything.
some kind of immune booster or something?
also the other sister is on some kind of iv infusions, and vicodin, for her ra. are those infusions steroid???
sorry for the hijack
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randi, I learned a long time ago.....you can not help those, who do not want to help themselves.
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- 6Hypnone,
you ask: " What about Cortef?"
First, not sure just why some kind of steroid seems like the only answer here. But Cortef is specifically for adrenal insuff. issues.
As for cost - often insurance will cover osteopathic doctors and body manipulation. Even Medicare has for me in the past. And the DO I was so lucky to find was trained in Upledger approach. Things change yet you might check the list at Upledger to see if any are in your area, some PTs may also be on both lists.
As for the two things your current doctor suggests: steroids and physical therapy.
I hope the steroid risks are clear - be aware that even just one week on steroids - well, they will still be active in your body for months to follow and can set off a chain reaction that can cause any chronic infection to rage war.
And steroid cause bone and soft tissue to degrade.
AND that you have other ways to address inflammation / cause.
As to the PT, it's a good idea to see one ASAP while you seek out others if their skill is not as rounded out as you'd need.
The best PT modalities, advice that did help me:
1. Education in what NOT to do and what TO DO regarding how to move my body. At one time I had to do flat on the floor rest with legs elevated.
This helped a lot -- though getting up and down was tricky. but they taught me each part of that, even how to properly get out of bed or into / out of a car - specific to your car seat.
Bucket seats, that sit low in a car are worse for the back. Driving and sitting is also generally not good but when you are better, talk to a PT about back supports for chair / car.
And simple movements that can help. Do not go gung ho with stretches. Some hurt more than help.
2. MOIST HEAT - at appts. and at home. I got a moist heating pad. Wonderful. Essential.
3. ULTRASOUND helped so muich
4. They did not have this then but many do now: INFRARED LIGHT TREATMENTS.
5. SHOES - the importance of solid footbed. no flip flops.
If you wear a sandal, there are specific points it must meet regarding how it keeps your foot stable with every part of every step & that it has a proper arch support for your specific foot..
This really matters to your back. I was amazed how much better this made things. -
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I'm on medicaid. They dont cover alternative care really. The page you gave me, I dudnt find where a list of docs was, and the specific page you gave me gave me an error. The list Pam gave me I found a girl near me. I dunno if she does that specific technique. She does not take insurance.
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- The person Pam connected you to who does not take insurance, ask her if she has any suggestions or referral for those with similar training who might take your insurance.
You can also find other myofascial release practitioner groups from which to find someone who might be with your insurance. Just type in "myofascial release" and your zip code for Google to get you started.
Or call the PT assoc. for your state and inquire.
This is not alternative care.
The PT modalities are usually covered, at least up to a certain amount within a year &
My DO was covered by my insurance which is the same as yours: medicaid & Medicare. Though it can vary from state to state and from time to time. Some drop off all insurances in these times, too, but some do not.
Some of the doctors / PT might be on your insurance. Here' the follow up links posted above:
Find a practitioner in your area. -- but since you need assessment, it's best to find a D.O. rather than, say, a PT who would not do assessments but only the treatment.
But if all you can find are PTs, then at least they would be trained in this method --
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- Many good "hits" with a cross search at Google for:
National Association of Myofascial Trigger Point Therapists
Directory to connect with a therapist -- and contact them for a list of who might be covered by your insurance. -
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- All these leads in mind, this can take a while and, really, it sounds as if you maybe should not be sitting now and give your back a true horizontal rest (with lower legs raised on a low ottoman of sorts).
I hope you might have a friend or relative who could help you out with this.
Finding the right doctor, the right therapist can take a while. And it can be demoralizing to have so few on any insurance plan, especially medicaid / Medicare. Still, it's work a look to find the best options.
And, yet, so much is also about immobilizing your back for a decent amount of time with just the most gently YOGA kinds of strengthening. Even isometric exercises for your lower abdomen can be done while you are flat backed on the floor.
The bed, nor a typical recliner will not do. Too soft.
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Well wanted to tell you what this therapist emailed me... My training is with John Barnes specializing in Myofascial Release- and it would be beneficial for you most definitely. It literally helps with everything, every cell in your body.
I would not need any type of standard test as they do not detect fascial restrictions (symptom causing) that which we are working with.
I have also worked with many people with Lyme and MFR is very helpful to manage it.
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Another therapist got back to me and had this to say, and now I'm quite confused.
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If the disk is bulging but not herniated, it may resolve on its own. If it happened recently, there is probably a lot of inflammation around the disc. I have found that it's not advisable to release muscle spasm around the area as the muscle contraction is helping to stabilize the vertebrae. After the inflammation decreases, then myofascial trigger point therapy may help.
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So I'm pretty much stuck now, if I cannot even get therapy to help w/this inflammation, which is not improving.
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Neither of two people have touched or gotten enough from you by email or phone to make an exact determination.
My MFR person has always gone to another area. Example: my hip is on fire/painful.....she doesn't go to the hip. She starts up in my abdomen and waist and releases the fascial that's connected.
I've had her work on my head and suddenly I feel a release in my thigh. It's all one body, all connected.
It's hard to describe. You just have to live it.
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Don't give up 6hyp. There is someone in that city that takes Medicare that knows their stuff.
Now if you were a cancer patient I bet you would have a list which takes your insurance. Which just gave me a thought. Look at Cancer PT centers and see if you can find someone that does MFR.
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I called my insurance co and asked about medical massage, and even gave them the name of this technique (I know it's not massage exactly but wanted to give them a starting point) and she said it is covered. Id just need the cpt code from the practitioner. I hope she knows what shes talking about.
Would you suggest I contact either of these ppl back? They are reasonably close to me. ---
Edit. Another got back to me, the one that I was thinking most serious about. He says this:
"Dear Danielle, so sorry for your pains, we can help within our scope of practice which is to treat muscle soft tissues like spasm muscles. With the questions about bulging disc, we are not physician and it's beyond our scope of practice. We will try to help u in anyway unfortunately Medicaid will not cover massage therapy. Sincerely, Ramon Mascarenas. "
So 3 totally different responses. One says she can help, one says not until inflammation is down, one cant if its a bulging disc. Which I dont KNOW b/c they wont do an MRI on me.
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Was it your doc opinion that you had a bulging disk? Did you have testing done to prove it was a bulging disk? Were words used like it looks like, it appears to or it might be?
And how often are the so called medical professionals wrong about their dx? Far too much!
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My Nd said she thought it may be a disk and spawned muscle. My Nd chiro didn't think it was either, but inst as a chemical issue. My Nd said most patients do not have an MRI to prove one way or another at this stage in the injury. She said insurance may not pay it. But I want to know so I know whether to get this the Pay done, since one said she won't even touch me until the possible disc is resolved. So I dunno if it's even safe to get the sacral therapy now. Since the one girl in my previous post said it may be dangerous. Tho it's the whole reason I wanted it--to stop the pain in lieu of steroids. It's like an unending circle.
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Listen to your ND, myself and Keebler and forgot the leery PT person. Find that person that has a need to help those in pain with special God given abilities to help heal.
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- You say you don't know if it's safe to get cranial sacral therapy right now.
This is why you don't just go to anyone who claims they can help anything. You go to a doctor who will ASSESS you, your back. One who will order imaging if they think it's needed after first an assessment where they talk to you and gently feel around a bit but not with force.
If you go to the Upledger website, see if any of those trained in this are also on your insurance list (yes, even if medicaid and Medicare, it may be) . . .
If not Upledger, then the same process. You need an ASSESSMENT, a proper assessment. No guesses, not vague blanket promises. Someone truly certified and proper is not going to just do any treatment without a proper assessment.
Check out the osteopathic doctors on your insurance. Then inquire as to their methods. If not Upledger trained, perhaps a similar approach. Just avoid anyone who claims to know until an assessment is done.
Imaging may not be required but this is why you need a doctor first, in case, so they know the best kind to order.
If a DO has other kinds of modalities (ways of working) just find out if they are gentle . . . get to the source . . . and be sure to avoid any fast twisting or sudden moves. You have to know this before deciding if they might be right.
The last time I checked your insurance combination did not cover chiropractors, and I've found osteopathic doctors to take more time and be gentle, usually. I've also found osteopathic doctors to have a wider foundation of medical training and not just the skeleton system. Usually.
When you find the right fit with a doctor, they then might offer suggestions for any massage therapist who can do myofascial treatments beyond what would be offered by the doctor, to complement. Though it may not be needed if the doctor is comprehensive enough.
Talk to all those in your area lyme support groups. Call the leader of the group for chronic fatigue syndrome and also MS support groups. Just be clear what kind of DO you are seeking for
myofascial assessment w/ Upledger or other similar techniques. John Barnes myofascial training is good.
But stay clear of anyone claiming they can surely help all things. They cannot possibly know that unless you have a physical appointment and proper assessment. -
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- My experience with this wonderful methods is that I did not find a doctor on my list. However, some physical therapists were.
My PT was not yet a PT friend of mine actually gave me a 2-hour session in my home with one. That was the best and most practical gift ever. This may seem "slow" but it's so vital to consider.
There are some kinds of self therapy you can gain from their sites, videos on youtube but a lot is lost without someone right there to know if you are doing it right. It's very subtle but so powerful.
Funny thing is that years prior I had attended group workshop in a small theatre downtown one sleep Saturday morning. I was bored and remembered thinking that, geez, I could have gone through all that in no time flat. I totally missed the point. Totally.
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- Sorry to write so much. Another important point as you find a doctor / therapist. How much time are you allowed to stay on the table AFTER the session is finished?
If they rush you out, it may not be worth it to go. Your back should not be jolted up and rushed out the door. Like a roast taken out of the oven, your body needs some time to rest there and let the treatment "take" before twisting off the table and contorting yourself into a vehicle to face tense traffic.
The environment of the office also should have a peaceful ambience, not rushed. This matters so much and tells you so much about the treatment philosophy.
If after establishing with a DO / doctor for a proper assessment if someone else is to be the actual therapist, see if home visits might work out. Even if you pay a travel fee, might insurance still cover them?
And, if you were injured in a auto accident that was someone else's fault, you might get massage therapy as part of that claim.
For whatever cause, your insurance MIGHT cover at least one visit from an occupational therapist to come to your home and assess "ergonomics" of your chairs, your typing position and teach you the best ways to move.
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I did find some Upl. practitioners in my area--they each have how many classes theyve taken and such by their name. I'm not sure how many classes is good. If you do a search, you'll see this on the top right.
My insurance said they'd cover this...I tried to explain what it was. They'd need the cpt code.
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IMO, fight to get an MRI.
I currently have 2 herniated disks and spinal stenosis. The pain told me something was wrong. Had to fight insurance company to get a MRI ordered. They sent me to physical therapy first, which made it even worse. You have to fail physical therapy for the neurologist to order the MRI.
I now have a diagnosis. It is documented for SSI down the road. No one wants to recognize Lyme disease. So document everything, get copies of all tests, blood work, visits to medical providers. Lyme disease affects every part of the human body. Slowly but surely, you will amass a long list of ailments due to Lyme and company. Unbelievable.
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randibear
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I got my mri first as you know. multiple issues. had pt first time on friday. they jus did shoulder movements to see where it hurt and strength issues. apparently my shoulder droops and I have loss of strength in that arm. they do not feel it rotator cuff but pinched nerve from my neck.
they applied heat pack and sent me home. night was not good. I was in so much pain I curled up in a ball.
jus moving the shoulder really hurt.
dr wants me to go to pain mgmt but I'm not sure what they do.
oh, talked to sister. y'all are right. I have completely given up. she's going through her third round of two shots in her neck one on each side. her dr told her they don't travel, are gone within a short period of time, yadayadayada.
she told me I didn't know what I was talking about, these are not athletic steroids and she feels so much better. they gave her vicodin and gabapentin.
I quit. its her health and I ain't getting involved anymore. if she crashes again, sorry, tough, I tried. ive got my own problems.
what is pain mgmt? I aint taking no steroids or heavy duty drugs.
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I'm asking my doc for an MRI, since I couldn't follow 'standard procedure" and get steroids. This was all caused by a cough.
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I was in this situation and debated back and forth for quite some time. I was in complete remission from Lyme at the time but it was something in the back of my mind. I took the shot, only 5mg of DepoMedrol, in a small joint in my neck. I reasoned that I would be safe as its only 1/10 the amt typically given in the lumbar or knee.
I can't begin to describe the hell that ensued 1 week after taking that shot. It completely disabled me with a pain that I never knew existed. Ended up with a severe case of demyelinating polyneuropathy. I'm still fighting to recover 3 years later.
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Was determined I'll have to do 6 weeks of pt b4 I get my mri.
Bad tick.. And that sounds horrid. I hate nerve pain more than anything.
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