disturbedme
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So I had my hair tested for heavy metals.
The results came back. I was really hoping (and I know hoping sounds weird) that I had mercury poisoning as I have a million symptoms of that and was hoping that it would be more answers for me that I so desparately need right now.
But no... I'm only high in a few things.
My Tin is the highest. Range is supposed to be .30 or lower and I am .97.
My Aluminum is the second highest. Range is supposed to be 7.0 or lower and I am at 12.
My Titanium is also a tad high, but not very much so. As well as my Cadmium only being a tiny bit high.
I was hoping I had Mercury poisoning because I have soooo many of the symptoms of that, that if I was high in Mercury it would have been a huge answer for me.
For example, these are symptoms of Mercury poisoning that I have:
I have had chronic neutropenia (low white blood cell counts and neutrophil counts) since I was 12 years old!!!
I've had chronic tachycardia (fast pulse) since I was 12!!!
I have had loosening of teeth for going on 4 years and cannot figure out what is the cause of that and I've been to multiple dentists and asked doctors and they have no idea.
Not to mention the palpitations that I have that are very bad and very bothersome, I was hoping there would be some answers to that.
All of this and I'm only 26 years old. I feel like I have the symptoms of a 96 year old, especially the loosening of teeth and my blood cell counts failing me. I feel like there is something else going on with my health than just lyme and co-infections and no one can figure it out and I am trying my darndest (having as many tests ran as I can) and I'm coming up short.
So what I'm wondering... does anyone else here have Tin or Aluminum Poisoning? Or was high in those results on their heavy metal testing?
It's unfortunate, but from what I've seen online, Tin and Aluminum poisoning are not anywhere like Mercury poisoning (symptom-wise) so there goes all the answers I was hoping to have on some of my continuing, crazy symptoms that have not improved from lyme or co-infection treatment.
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From what I was told by a bio-chemist, hair testing is not accurate because there is so much junk added to hair products, including shampoo.
Can't they do blood testing for all the chemicals instead of hair testing?
I had blood tests for heavy metals.
I don't know if it was the bio-chemists opinion or if this is really fact.
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seekhelp
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GiGi said hair testing is garbage, unless you're provoking metals with a chelation protocol. You would expect hair readings to be higher then. Unprovoked tests mean little. Blood metal levels would only be high if acutely posioned. Metals I believe like to reside in tissues, brain, and other hard to reach areas. Don't think your low mercury level on your hair test means much.
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disturbedme
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Lovely..... then how am I supposed to get an accurate heavy metal test?
That is so sad that the hair testing was a lot of $$$ and now sounds like it was a waste of money. Geez...
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hey disturbed. GiGi is definitely the queen of metal knowledge. maybe send her an email and see what she says.
and yeah, the hair tests are inaccurate only because when metal toxic the body often holds on to metals instead of getting rid of them through the hair and other means. so just because certain metals don't show in your hair doesn't mean they're not present (in potentially dangerous amounts) in your body.
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hey disturbed. GiGi is definitely the queen of metal knowledge. maybe send her an email and see what she says.
and yeah, the hair tests are inaccurate only because when metal toxic the body often holds on to the metals instead of getting rid of them through the hair and other means. so just because certain metals don't show in your hair doesn't mean they're not present (in potentially dangerous amounts) in your body.
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The way I tell, is to make some cilantro pesto. Eat about a tablespoon, if you have a headache the next day. You have issues with metals. And you will feel lousy for a few days. If you do this, be prepared with binders.
If your head is foggy, chances are you have metals anyways.
I know you can get rid of metals just by eating this simple vegetable. I can eat a bowl fool of cilantro and no symptoms. That sure wasn't the case a while ago.
In otherwords cilantro can be use as a challenge all by itself.
There are other challenges you can do involving DMSA -- I think that's right and measuring the release of metals in the urine. You can do a hair analysis before and after. And see the change.
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Disturbed - you said your tin is high. I have a theory about tin, when tin is high its because your body is way low in glutathione. Your liver just is making enough, so your body just can't detoxify well enough. I had the same high levels of tin a while ago.
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If you have metals in your hair, it means your body is getting rid of them. If your body has mercury all bound up, it will not show in your hair.
Hair can tell you some information, in fact, if you look at the AI thread, GiGi is talking about her recent hair test there. I'd post your questions on that thread to be sure she sees it.
A provoked urine test is best for seeing what metals you have. If you had no mercury show up in your hair, that in itself can mean you have a mercury problem, but not for sure.
My aluminum was high in my hair test, but low in my urine test. That can be taken to mean that perhaps I'm exposed to too much of it but I am detoxing it well since it's coming out in the hair.
Also, if you look at your mineral balances, that gives some information .... I don't remember what to look at, but there are things it tells you.
So, it's not useless, just isn't telling you what you want to know.
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Lymie_in_md, that cilantro pesto messed me up BAD one time. i had a big setback due to doing it for a week.
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I had a heavy metal blood test done last year.
Lead and mercury showed up but not high enough for the test to be considered dangerous.
I'm wondering if any should show up at all, considering it's not usually detectable in the blood.
Does anyone know?
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I completely understand seekhelp, I too found the same issue. If you have any doubts about metal toxicity, I know of no better way to find out if you don't have money to do a challenge with a practioner.
By the way, even if you do the challenge with DMSA and see it in your urine, your going to feel quite ill afterwoods. You have to remember the binders.
So, pragmatically speaking, if you want to know! It costs you very little to find out. How sick you get is how toxic you are with metals.
I think it is better now to just assume metals and use metal cleanses until you get the metals out. There are several, I've never used OSR, maybe gigi's got the latest skinny on that.
You might want to look at a 1 year plan and track your progress.
I start slow at first, just dietary to start. Maybe add ACZ nano which will bind strongly to the metal and move it out of your system. OSR might really be good to, it binds tightly to the metal first. You definitely want to build up tissue glutathione levels. I was a big advocate of suppository glutathione, but liposomal might be as good or better. It is an oral and will get the gluathione past the stomach.
I don't believe already toxic people can build up glutathione levels with precursors only. Our glutathione levels are down for a reason, what makes anyone think adding more precursors will get processed as if we are normal.
I commonly have cilantro in my lunch now and I enjoy it.
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quote:Originally posted by lymie_in_md: ...I was a big advocate of suppository glutathione, but liposomal might be as good or better. It is an oral and will get the gluathione past the stomach.
Hello Bob,
This might seem like a dumb question, but is the liposomal glutathione readily available thru physicians now? Reason I ask is because everyone I know is still taking injections and an oral would be so much better!
Do you have a brand name you can give me? I'd like to ask my doc for a trial rx when I go in January.
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Ping -- I don't glutathione anymore so I've never used liposomal. When I needed it, I got it using suppositories.
Liposomal is gluthione encased in some kind of fatty material that can get past the stomach. There are companies now making them all over the place. It is a form of nano technology.
I found this film probably has nothing to do with your question, but check it out it is very interesting. In the meantime I'll try to answer your question later.
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Thanks Bob - I've read some of the stuff on oral glut. and don't know what to think. Even suppositories would be better than constantly dealing with the needles. Any advice on supps?
Much thanks for your response. I'm going to ask my doc for a change over.
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I made my own using glutathione and coconut oil in a form. Then put it in the freezer to harden. Very effective and very cheap (42 dollars and you can make over 100). Ones you buy are expensive.
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If you are worried about metals, take another look at Allergie-Immun therapy.
In my 1st test from them, I was shown to be allergic to lead, nickel, copper and mercury.
This meant that my body was not recognizing them and therefore not able to properly release them.
It could be that your body is (incorrectly) holding onto mercury and that is why the test result shows only low levels.
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merry, was that through LabCorp or a specialty lab of some sort?
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Yeah, but how does anyone know AI is actually accurate?
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Doctor's Data does a heavy metals urine test.
60 bucks. Uses dmsa for the provocation. collect urine for 6 hours and send the sample.
Got it through my llmd.
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Thanks so much TS96 - I wrote down that info. How hard was the DMSA provocation?!
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When you do a challenge Urine test, the results may be just fractions. Some people show little after several challenge test.s What remains behind is not known and some metals may not show at all. There is no lab test anywhere in the world that tells if any and how much is in the body. Energetic testing gives good indications, but also not the quantities. It is fairly easy to test where the metals in the body are located and a fair indication which ones. Usually, if mercury is found, most of the others are also present at a toxic level.
Be sure when you do the urine collection following a challenge, you close the canister immediately every time you add to it. Mercury turns to vapor almost immediately and will cling to the plastic canister or hang on your bathroom wall. Shake the canister thoroughly before you fill the vial to mail it.
I learned all of this the hard way. I struggled with metals release for years, knowing full well that I still had a lot in me. After doing some rounds of Allergie Immun, the metals are coming out like a waterfall. I just did a hairtest giving me the proof. Once the metals show up in the hairtest (also Drs. Data $49.) they are definitely leaving the body.
So be sure you look into all these aspects before you go agonzing chelating the hard way and still not getting all the culprits out.
Your mineral base has to be in the post possible condition to release metals! (that's why many have to resort to KPU) Inadequate minerals = a dirty spark plug only backfires. I used to have a motorized bicycle .....
Also from what I have learned, if you have a problem with tin and aluminum, mercury and the other dirty dozen are just hiding in the body. They never come out all together; some will have to give way to let others go. If allergic to any of them, nothing much will happen. The stay and cause more and more cell deaths unless effectively removed from the body.
Good luck and take care.
P.S. if it weren't so late in the evening, I would make some corrections. But you will get the idea.
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Seek, if I showed you the results of my hair test after 9 bottles of AI and my previous hair tests and challenge tests, even you would believe it. That includes pesticides and insecticides and several hundred other chemicals that are now recognized by the immune system. It also corrected all dysregulations (allergies) to all fungi, mucor, mold, inherited miasms, plus a lot more.
I am delighted that I can enter my late years without that stuff still hanging around in my body. I will also make sure that I check with AI at certain intervals that we are not being stuck with new dysregulations in our DNA ---- the constant bombardment with more and more NEW chemicals may not be in our best interest.
Hope that you also can find your way out of this maze.
Best wishes and take care.
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