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I would like to use herb to treat lyme but should I take by myself or go to the naturopath doctor?

Do the LLMD know how to use herb or they just give medicine?

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You would still need an ILADS-educated LL ND (naturopathic doctor).

Not all NDs know about lyme and if they are not ILADS-educated they simply are not going to be able to treat you. Now, a LL ND may have a different path but if they have the science about the spirochete, etc. that comes from the ILADS research and training - they will not miss the critical factors that non-LL NDs overlook.

It's also not so easy as just taking a few herbs. And no treatment is a walk in the park. Lyme is one of the most toxic infections known to man. It's no easy task. But, yes, certain specific supplements can make it much easier.

Most LLMDs incorporate supplements, especially liver support and adrenal support. Even Dr. B's guidelines has four pages devoted to supplements. Singleton's book, too, gives much attention to supplements.

* * But, first: Have you been diagnosed? That is the most important part. A good diagnostic work-up by a LLMD for all the tick infections. Then you know what you are dealing with and their suggestions.

There is a big difference in a protocol for just lyme than one that also covers babesia, ehrlichia, bartonella or RMSF (Rocky Mountain spotted fever), etc. Each requires specific attention.

It's also important to know that many of the LL NDs sometimes also use antibiotics along with supplements. Whatever is going to work for you.

You can also ask your local lyme support group for suggestions as to if there are LL NDs in your area or - perhaps a few who might at least offer basic support to back up a LLMD.

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http://www.lymenet.org/SupportGroups/

Find your area support groups

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www.ilads.org

ILADS - see the Physician's Training Programs - you want someone who has completed this - or the equivalent.
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* This explains WHY you need an ILADS LLMD or ILADS LL ND (naturopathic doctor) to guide your treatment protocol.

www.clinicaladvisor.com/Controversy-continues-to-fuel-the-Lyme-War/article/117160/

CONTROVERSY CONTINUES TO FUEL THE "LYME WAR" - 2007

" . . .To treat Lyme disease for a comparable number of life cycles, treatment would need to last 30 weeks. . . ."


"...If all cases were detected and treated in the early stages of Lyme disease, the debate over the diagnosis and treatment of late-stage disease would not be an issue, and devastating rheumatologic, neurologic, and cardiac complications could be avoided..."

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- Full article at link above.
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Links to treatment:

http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/treatment_guidelines.html

ILADS Treatment Guidelines

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Below this line, all authors address supplements - some more so than others but you will see they all know the basics. You can compare and contrast so you know what to look for in a LL ND. Most should be familiar with all authors here and with the Biochemistry article in the next post.
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http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/B_guidelines_12_17_08.pdf

Advanced Topics in Lyme Disease (Diagnostic Hints and Treatment Guidelines for Lyme and Other Tick Borne Illnesses

Dr. Burrascano's Treatment Guidelines (2008) - 37 pages

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As important as any supplements, sections regarding self-care:

Go to page 27 for SUPPORTIVE THERAPY & the CERTAIN ABSOLUTE RULES

and also pages 31-32 for advice on a safe, non-aerobic exercise plan and physical rehabilitation.

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MAJOR REFERENCE LIST FOR SUPPLEMENTS:

This is included in Burrascano's Guidelines, but you may want to be able to refer to it separately, too:

http://www.lymepa.org/Nutritional_Supplements.pdf

** Nutritional Supplements in Disseminated Lyme Disease **

J.J. Burrascano, Jr., MD (2008) - Four pages

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http://www.lymeinducedautism.com/images/Lymewhat_is_it_part_3,_LIA.pdf


LYME DISEASE Considerations in Diagnosis and Management

June 26, 2008 Lyme-autism Connection Conference

Steven Harris, MD

125 pages - Powerpoint presentation

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http://www.klinghardtneurobiology.com/LymeProtocolOct09.pdf

A Treatment Guide: Lyme and other Chronic Infections

by Dietrich Klinghardt, MD, PhD

October 2009 - 87 pages

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This book, by an ILADS member LLMD, holds great information about treatments options and support measures:

http://tinyurl.com/6lq3pb (through Amazon)

THE LYME DISEASE SOLUTION (2008)

- by Kenneth B. Singleton , MD; James A. Duke. Ph.D. (Foreword)

You can read more about it here and see customer reviews.

Web site: www.lymedoctor.com

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http://tinyurl.com/5vnsjg

Book: Healing Lyme: Natural Healing And Prevention of Lyme Borreliosis And Its Coinfections - by Stephen Harrod Buhner

website: http://planetthrive.com/2009/08/buhner-healing-lyme-program/

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http://tinyurl.com/5drx94

Lyme Disease and Modern Chinese Medicine - by Dr. QingCai Zhang, MD & Yale Zhang

web site: try www.sinomedresearch.org and use "clinic" and then "clinic" for the passwords or call Hepapro through www.hepapro.com

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www.lyme-disease-research-database.com/lymenutritionfile1_files/Integrated-Approach-DAN.pdf

HEALING LYME DISEASE: An Integrated Approach to Curing Chronic Infection

Daniel A. Kinderlehrer, M.D. (2004)

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This author is also an ILADS member & a LL ND author:

http://www.dancingviolets.com/media/pdf/LymeDisease.pdf

Chronic Lyme Disease and Co-infections: Clinical Overview (Snow)

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Similar approach, from another ILADS-member/ND author:

http://www.steveclarknd.com/LymeDisease.htm

Your Path to Wellness (Clark)

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RIFE

http://www.lymebook.com/lyme-disease-rife-machines-bryan-rosner

Book: Lyme Disease and Rife Machines by Bryan Rosner
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www.townsendletter.com/FebMar2006/lyme0206.htm

February/March 2006

BIOCHEMISTRY OF LYME DISEASE: BORRELIA BURGDORFERI SPIROCHETE / CYST

by Prof. Robert W. Bradford and Henry W. Allen

EXCERPTS:

. . . A discovery of great importance relating to a toxin produced by the causative agent of Lyme disease, Borrelia burgdorferi, has been linked to a similar toxin produced by the organism Clostridium botulinum (botulism) *. . . .

[extensive explanation of:]

* Lyme Disease Toxin . . .

* Action of Toxin . . .

* Dietary SUPPLEMENTS in Lyme Disease . . .

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- Full article and great photos at link above.

(There is a caution, though, about one thing mentioned here: bismuth. Not a good idea. But this article has so much value, it is still important to read - just forget the bismuth as it can be very dangerous. This article has one of the best explanations of how lyme works.)
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* as he compares the effect of the borrelia toxin with that of Botulism:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botulism

Botulism

Botulism (Latin, botulus, "sausage") also known as "Botulinus Intoxication," is a rare but serious paralytic illness caused by botulin toxin.
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It's pretty complicated to treat Lyme & the co-infections. Not all natropathic doctors are good or even if they are good - they may not be able to help you.

If you do want to treat yourself with herbs - Dr. Zhang & Steven Buhner are both very good sources to look into.

Dr. Zhang - http://www.sinomedresearch.org/

Stephen Harrod Buhner - http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Lyme-Prevention-Borreliosis-Coinfections/dp/0970869630

There are other good books out there but I haven't read them all. Do as much research as you can.

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