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MDW005
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I'm not taking antibiotics any more, but I am taking:

freeze dried garlic and c-salt.

Is it important to take milk thistle even though

im not using antibiotics?

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Keebler
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Absolutely.

The liver is still asked to do a tremendous amount dealing with the infection and clearing. The liver also is often damaged by lyme and it has been and continues to be stressed by the various treatments along the way (even with garlic, it's a lot for the body to attend to if die-off toxins are floating around).

It takes a long time for the liver to regain lost ground. Sometimes, healing is possible but not always so it's important to learn how one might compensate for a "fatty liver" or scared liver.


Garlic is easier on the liver than abx but, still, your liver needs all the tender loving care you can give every minute.


There are other good liver support supplements, too. If you have a LL ND (naturopathic doctor ) or other doctor who is educated regarding supplements and also LL - you might ask their advice.

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Liver Defend

NAC + Milk Thistle

Great product

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MDW005
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I'm not seeing LL trying hard to learn from you

and others here and on my own.

I haven't read any books it's diificult for me to
retain things I have read and staying focused.

never was a real good trait of mine. Never liked reading, but will give it a try.
thankyou.

Diane

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Diane,

You're off the hook - while editing, most of my links disappeared.
that happens a lot. Too tired to reconstruct.

However, please don't rely just on posts here or you will miss a great deal of what is important. If you have trouble reading, perhaps you can find a good friend to read with you.

I can only post names of authors now but may come back with links later.

It's really important to have read Burrascano's guidelines - in it are four pages of Nutritional supplements listed - and advice on self-care and gentle but effective exercise.

Singleton's book. Books by Buhner and Zhang.

These are the basics to compare and contrast. Then go to Klinghardt's work - he generously posts at his site.

This is still just a start but so very important as each author has a great deal to teach us.

Good luck.
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Oh . . . I had actually made a working page with most of those links I had posted. So, here we go:


To compare and contrast:

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http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/treatment_guidelines.html

ILADS Treatment Guidelines

2009 ILADS Lyme Disease Conference CD-ROM


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http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/B_guidelines_12_17_08.pdf

Dr. Burrascano's Treatment Guidelines (2008) - 37 pages

Sections regarding self-care:

Go to page 27 for SUPPORTIVE THERAPY & the CERTAIN ABSOLUTE RULES

and also pages 31-32 for advice on a safe, non-aerobic exercise plan and physical rehabilitation.

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This is included in Burrascano's Guidelines, but you may want to be able to refer to it separately, too:

http://www.lymepa.org/Nutritional_Supplements.pdf

Nutritional Supplements in Disseminated Lyme Disease

J.J. Burrascano, Jr., MD (2008)

Four pages

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http://www.lymeinducedautism.com/images/Lymewhat_is_it_part_3,_LIA.pdf


LYME DISEASE Considerations in Diagnosis and Management

June 26, 2008 Lyme-autism Connection Conference

Steven Harris, MD

125 pages - Powerpoint presentation


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http://www.klinghardtneurobiology.com/LymeProtocolOct09.pdf

A Treatment Guide: Lyme and other Chronic Infections

by Dietrich Klinghardt, MD, PhD

October 2009 - 87 pages

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This book, by an ILADS member LLMD, holds great information about treatments options and support measures:


http://tinyurl.com/6lq3pb (through Amazon)


THE LYME DISEASE SOLUTION (2008)

- by Kenneth B. Singleton , MD; James A. Duke. Ph.D. (Foreword)

You can read more about it here and see customer reviews.

Web site: www.lymedoctor.com

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http://tinyurl.com/5vnsjg


Book: Healing Lyme: Natural Healing And Prevention of Lyme Borreliosis And Its Coinfections - by Stephen Harrod Buhner


website: http://planetthrive.com/2009/08/buhner-healing-lyme-program/

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http://tinyurl.com/5drx94


Lyme Disease and Modern Chinese Medicine - by Dr. QingCai Zhang, MD & Yale Zhang


web site: try www.sinomedresearch.org and use "clinic" and then "clinic" for the passwords or call Hepapro through www.hepapro.com

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www.lyme-disease-research-database.com/lymenutritionfile1_files/Integrated-Approach-DAN.pdf


HEALING LYME DISEASE: An Integrated Approach to Curing Chronic Infection


Daniel A. Kinderlehrer, M.D. (2004)

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This author is also an ILADS member & a LL ND author:

http://www.dancingviolets.com/media/pdf/LymeDisease.pdf

Chronic Lyme Disease and Co-infections: Clinical Overview


This explains a lot about how the body works when fighting lyme. It has some very detailed accounts and suggestions.

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Similar approach, from another ILADS-member/ND author:

http://www.steveclarknd.com/LymeDisease.htm

Your Road to Wellness

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If you scroll way down at this thread and you will see many entries about LIVER SUPPORT:


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=065801

Topic: TINNITUS: Ringing Between The Ears; Vestibular, Balance, Hearing with compiled links

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thankyou so much Keebler

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