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MariaA
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Resveratrol is just one of the many components of Japanese Knotweed. It is also in grapes.
What we want for Lyme treatment is the complete herb Japanese Knotweed- because there are other components in the herb, that work together, besides just resveratrol.
But since resveratrol is popular right now, the capsules are usually marketed under the name 'resveratrol' only. It's a marketing decision. You have to read the fine print to learn whether it's made from red wine extract and grapes, or from Japanese Knotweed, which is what we want.
The reason the ads talk about it being in grapes is that people want to take it for the antioxidant benefits (and they know what grapes are and that red wine seems to be beneficial in moderation, but don't know what Japanese Knotweed is).
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Resveratrol is in several fruits/herbs/wine/etc. Japanese Knotweed is the form Buhner recommends and is in Source Naturals.
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maria....thank you. that wasn't too much for me.
it summarized what i know i had read in his book...but wan't ableto "recall"
thanks a lot. i make a tea from JK and othere of his hearbs and i have ordered the SN resveratrol also...
it shouldbe ok for m to take bothe right? witht eh pills i can build up...its kinda hard to be sure what dose i'm getting witht hetea-but i know i t it doing something cuz it often knocks e out
i also have a red root tincture and plan to up that...i am so lumpy and don't know if it is bart or lymph but i think the red root is supposed t help
thanks everyone!!!!!
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IckyTicky
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The most natural resveratrol you can get is from the muscadine grape (red/black grape)
My daughter takes resveratrol from a powdered product called Isotonix that our LLMD recommended.
It's about $50 bucks but he says the cheap stuff isn't as good though.
My daughter calls it her "feel good" drink because when she is feeling very badly it helps her a lot.
Myself, I drink a glass of muscadine wine now and then. I order it from Rosemary's Vineyard in La Grange, Tx.
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sparkle7
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I think the kind of resveratrol we need to take for Lyme is the Japanese Knotweed. Herbs have many components or constituents that are chemical & work together. These may be beneficial for healing Lyme.
The red grapes are good but it's probably not what we need for our Lyme treatment. Buhner specifically says to use Knotweed... It's also alot cheaper.
Knotweed is a weed & grows everywhere. Interesting how nature provides for us...
The one I like is by Kal & combines tumeric with resveratrol. It's only about $10 a bottle...
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sparkle7
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PS - sometimes Dr.'s recommend stuff that they get commissions on... You have to be a little careful with that.
I don't think you need to get the expensive one to get the benefits of resveratrol.
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Sorry if this has been mentioned before or somewhere else, but what data is Buhner basing his recommendation of resveratrol on? And for Lyme or Bartonella?
One of the known side effects of resveratrol is joint pain, so I'm not sure if it's a good or bad thing for Lyme people. Although perhaps that could be a herx symptom in some people too.
Just curious what scientific reason there is for recommending it?
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From his book, p. 105, enhances and modulates immune function, active against a number of gram-positive and gram-negative bacteria, anti-inflammatory for arthritic and bacterial inflammations, protects against endotoxin damage, reduces herxes, cardioprotector.
Knotweed enhances blood flow to areas difficult to reach so helps other herbs and drugs reach those areas.
He says that while resveratrol does amazing things, the whole knotweed herb is crucial for Lyme treatment.
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MariaA
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He lists a bunch of studies in the back of his book that you can look up for further information. I dont have a copy at the moment so I can't tell you more. Also, again- resveratrol by itself is different than whole herb Japanese Knotweed. There are often side effects to purified single constituents from herbs than there are if you use a whole herb. A classic example is aspirin, which has side effects that whole-herb white willow bark (from which it was originally derived) does not.
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sparkle7
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Yes that's true about the extract vs. the whole herb. I guess you just have to try it out to see which is best.
There are alot of variables like where the plant is grown, what time of day it was harvested, whether it was irradiated, how fresh it is...
You can go crazy with all of this stuff...LOL
I was reading about one herb & the extract seems to be purer with less side effects... It's hard to say. I think dowsing can help to decide - if you are into that.
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IckyTicky
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PS- My LLMD doesn't get commission on the kind he recommended. He recommends it because it works, and others have complained that the cheap stuff did nothing.
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Brussels
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None of the capsules or extracts worked for me. I developed a reaction and so many other people did. I get away from any brand of Resveratrol for that reason.
The only thing that matched me in VERY LOW quantities was FULL Japanese knotweed. I boiled the root for quite a few minutes and that decoction was like heaven sometimes. But it was STRONG.
I felt it going through my brain almost immediately.
Buhner sometime ago suggested me to use Stephania instead of Japanese Knotweed. For me, Stephania was muuuch better, much easier, and I took stephania much longer than Japanese knotweed.
JK was for me emergency treatment (because it was too strong), while Stephania was almost like food.
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