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- This book is specific to lyme and other chronic stealth infections. The author discusses the endocrine connection and effects of STRESS on a person with such infections.
You can read customer reviews and look inside the book at this link to its page at Amazon.
THE POTBELLY SYNDROME: How Common Germs Cause Obesity, Diabetes, And Heart Disease (Paperback) - 2005
by Russell Farris and Per Marin, MD, PhD
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A large belly is also a key sign of ADRENAL dysfunction that often goes with lyme. The author above discuss the connection.
A swollen belly can also indicate certain liver problems. I'm assuming your doctor is monitoring your liver.
Getting enough probiotics? Candida can also swell a belly. -
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You are not alone. I was a size 3, now a year later I can't get in anything but new sweats. It sucks!
Liver? Red count and hemoglobin are sky high. Yeast yes got that despite limiting sugar and
nystatin 4xday and coconut oil. I am just muddling through.
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I had the big belly with the onset of illness 10 yrs ago. I thought then it was all the abx I was taking.
After a few years off abx and some major detoxing my belly disappeared. Then.......
this past summer one day I woke up and none of my pants would fit around my middle. Literally over night I felt and looked 5 mths preganant.
I'm a 52 yo female with ovaries only and I also noted some other sx that made sense with hormone menopause. Last week when they weighed me at doc office, I had gained another 4 lbs in just 3 weeks. I had started rifampin for bart.
Somedays the feeling, thickness around my middle is worse than others. All my pants/clothes would fit me it they all had elastic waist. I too wear lots of sweats.
Interesting thread.
Pam
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Its really weird I was going to poat a question about weight gain.....I know i am not physically doing much right now but I started babesia treatment 2 weeks ago and feel like I have pile d the pounds on I cant get pants on...always in sweats.....could it be the babs?????.....or could it be I just eat too much???/.......either way this illness has had an effect......
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Pinelady
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I dont eat too much. I think a lot of it is lymph, and new cells don't know how to behave.
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Yu may have pyroluria (KPU), and not detox well from anyting you take or kill. YOu mayreabsorb things like many who have lyme do.
also you most likely have other forms of parasites other than just babesia.(its a parsite). Many parasites are intestinal not just blood parasites.
Check into this...as parasite stool testes do not always show the load of parasites. Many with big bellies and intestinal troubles struggle with tape worms and other parasites...do a humaworm cleanse and you will find out.
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Yes, my horrible babesia gives me the same problem. When I take my anti malarials, and target the root cause, it gets worse. I am distended, can't loose weight, though I eat like my thin children.
My first 6 months of acute lyme/babesia I gained 80 pounds, no change in eating habits.
It has only gotten worse.
I know how people look at me. It is part of the torture of being ill.
Sometimes I dream I am running like a gazelle, ever so light, and without any sign of fatigue. What a fantasy.
I will dance in heaven.
Mary
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I have a babesia belly too; feel bloated, puffy, eyes swollen, head pressure with swelling by temples. It waxes and wanes. Anyone have frequent urination, and then the bloating subsides?
At least now I know what to call it....hope it goes away with the protozoa/parasite!
How can we test cortisol? Is there something we can do to compensate; supplements, lymph drainage?
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nspiker,
That screams of thyroid/adrenal issues.
Go to community pharmacy and ask for saliva cortisol test (the 4 test 8am, 12pm, 6pm, bedtime)
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A few Babesia symptoms, as I've read them, are: loss of appetite and weight loss.
A few Bartonella symptoms, are: obesity, weight gain, swelling and bloating.
Before TBD diagnosis I had weight gain. I've been on treatment for 7 months and have lost 28 pounds but still have a slight belly.
I have Lyme, Bart and Babs.
Does that mean that the Bart (weight gain)is getting under control and now the Babesia (weight loss) is primary? Or could I have lost all that weight due to change in diet, no sugar, no occassional glass of wine?
For some reason I thought I read some where that Malarone caused weight loss but I can't find it anywhere. Anyone else read this or is this a figment of my Lyme brain?
Good question to ask my LLMD.
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Elaine,
Way too many things factor into weight gain/wight loss.
Babesia is believed to cause weight loss i think because it can cause anemia (low iron levels)
Babesia is a parasite found in RBC's and basically steals our iron.
Bart is a beast of a co I have yet to venture into. I'll cross that bridge when i get there.
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Go to community pharmacy and ask for saliva cortisol test (the 4 test 8am, 12pm, 6pm, bedtime)
So, I can get this test at a community pharmacy, right?
Then what; is there something I could take if it's high or low? My thyroid has always been normal. Can you tell me more about the symptoms of adrenal issues?
My blood tests have been normal all along, until last month, when my glucose was high for the first time ever. Could this be a result of adrenal fatigue?
thanks, nancy
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Well it would make sense for me at least for this to be bart or BLO.
I still believe it really hormonal related mainly for myself. With some other menopause sx? I'm due a yearly next month and plan to discuss with my gyn.
I'm going to ask for hormonal 24 hr urine testing. When Dr C had my hormones tested back in '03, they were tanked then.
Pam
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nspiker,
yes a comm pharmacy.
once you get your results you can determine supplemental treatment. Which is easy to do and the adrenals respond well and rather quickly.
glucose absolutely plays a factor.
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quote:Originally posted by lymewreck36:
My first 6 months of acute lyme/babesia I gained 80 pounds, no change in eating habits.
You are the first person I have seen that had such a rapid weight gain other than myself. Mine was precipitated by my Lyme symptoms worsening rapidly, then being given prednisone for the meningitis pain which they assumed was just tension in my muscles at the time.
I gained 30 pounds in a month! I had never ever had a weight problem before that, and was actually working out before and during this time, and dieting, as I had gained about 5-10 pounds in the previous few years and wanted to lose it.
I have not tested positive for babesia, but I do get hot flashes through the night, though I can't sweat like normal people, I can only sweat in a couple places.
I do have air hunger at times, though it has gotten a lot better with Lyme treatment, it still happens sometimes when I get fatigued from overdoing it. I don't know if I have it or not.
I also started getting a weird swollen lower belly near the beginning of my worsening symptoms, and it confused me, it kind of felt like my lower abdomen was filled with a water balloon. Does this sound familiar to anyone?
I just lost about 10 lbs--I think I can attrib to the no sugar/no carbs etc. candida diet. Seems like the belly is the last place the weight leaves.
Before that--before treatment, I'd gained about 20-25 lbs over several years. Seems like no matter what I did I gained weight. But I never got super big, just bigger than I feel comfortable with.
And I've gotten really skinny in the past, always with feeling very anxious.
So it's been a roller-coaster. Hard to to figure out what's going on. I guess the weight is the LEAST of my problems. About to start Rifampin so we'll see what the weight fairies do with that!
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When I took high dose artemesinin I had a gross bloated belly. It went away when I stopped. It was disgusting!
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