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I take a ton of pain meds: was lucky though that I never had to go to the opiods: get by with Neurontin and Elavil. Do a search: a bunch of people are taking opiods
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Carol in PA
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My doc will not prescribe opioids.
I have gotten a great deal of pain relief by taking systemic enzymes, magnesium, and fish oil.
These supplements reduce inflammation, which reduces pain.
Carol
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I take a narcotic called Ultracet (also called Ultram). The active ingredient is Tramadol. I take a high dose...I couldn't survive without it. I've been taking it every day for 3 years. My PCP prescribes it.
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Keebler
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- Ditto to Carol's note:
Magnesium, Fish oil and CURCUMIN. Also Corydalis.
All these are much safer for the liver and kidneys. A toxic liver will always bring pain to the body, so liver support and gentle methods to help the body better detox can help.
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Corydalis can also help calm the brain and that can relieve pain with increased kindling. This is the same kind of amygdala kindling that occurs with neuroborreliosis.
The protective effect of dl-tetrahydropalmatine against the development of amygdala kindling seizures in rats.
Lin MT, Wang JJ, Young MS.
Department of Medical Research, Chi-Mei Medical Center, Yung-Kang City, Tainan Hsien 710, Taiwan. [email protected]
The influence of dl-tetrahydropalmatine (THP), an active component isolated from a Chinese herbal medicine corydalis, was tested on the development of electrically kindled amygdala.
The seizure activity was quantified by a ultrasonic system for vertical motion measurements. Intraperitoneal injection of THP (20 or 30 mg kg(-1)) 30 min before applying the daily kindling stimulus prevented the development of the kindling process.
The behavioral seizure score and the motion responses which normally develop during electrical kindling were reduced below their initial values.
The results suggest that THP is a very effective antiepileptogenic and anticonvulsant agent when applied to electrically kindled rats.
Shixiao San, Jin Lingzi San, Liang Fu Wan, and Baishao Gancao Tang
by Subhuti Dharmananda, Ph.D., Director, Institute for Traditional Medicine, Portland, Oregon
excerpt:
. . . Corydalis is added "to increase the pain-relieving effects of this prescription."
To compare Shixiao San and Jin Lingzi San, it is helpful to examine two of the main ingredients. Yang Yifan (9) compares corydalis to trogopterus (wulingzhi):
Corydalis and trogopterus enter the liver and spleen meridians. Both are able to promote blood circulation and remove congealed blood. They are very effective for relieving pain.
This is an excellent formula, intended for use before going to bed (follow instructions and caution with driving until you get used to it. Do not mix with sedative or alcohol).
Ingredients; Corydalis root, jujube seeds and Schisandra fruit.
Jujube is also called zizyphus. Schisandra is also spelled schizandra. Both can be searched at PubMed and at The One Earth Herbal Sourcebook ( http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com )
Topic: CURCUMIN Prevents Some Stress-Related Changes (Endocrine & Neuro)
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In my experience, Corydalis makes me sleepy. Curcumin does not. -
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springshowers
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i take ms contin and have for 10 years
i am now recently changed to a brand name new version
called Embeda.
I have been on the extneded release and also have been given immediate release for breakthrough pain of Ms Contin and also Hydrocodone.
Pain has been my worst and most severe symptom..
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Keebler
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- If you take hydrocodone (as it is usually teamed with acetaminophen), be sure to take liver protection like Milk Thistle as hydrocodone can be damaging to the liver - and to the ears. Milk Thistle can offer some protection for both liver and ears. It may not be enough, but it's a start.
. . . "I was taking Tylenol like I was supposed to, by the label," he said. A few days later the then 37-year-old Benedi was in a coma and in desperate need of a liver transplant. . . ."
quote:Originally posted by KimDC: I take a narcotic called Ultracet (also called Ultram). The active ingredient is Tramadol. I take a high dose...I couldn't survive without it. I've been taking it every day for 3 years. My PCP prescribes it.
KimDC,
Ultracet isn't a narcotic, but it is narcotic-like. Ultracet is Tramadol & Tylenol.
Our insurance won't pay for Ultracet. It will pay for Tramadol and we add Tylenol to it.
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lymebytes
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I have had extreme pain/nerve pain body wide. I see a pain management specialist. He has Rx'd many things to help w/pain, most do not help. Getting rid of the bacteria helps the most.
Lyrica helps some it didn't me. Neurontin helps some, it didn't help me. Oxycontin didn't help the pain and made me more foggy. So we went to shorter acting meds.
Currently, I take Vicoprofen (like Vicodin minus the acetaminophen w/ibuprofen instead) and Xanax. It is the most helpful combo I have found, yet isn't perfect. He believes this combo has worked best because it decreases inflammation and calms the nervous system.
I have found that disease pain vs injury or post-op pain is VERY different and harder, if not impossible at times to control.
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Thank you all so much for your replies..I appreciate them very much. I see my pain doctor on Friday. I don't know what to do with my meds..I've been on opiods for 3 years..just got diagnosed..still in a lot of pain but my doctor wants to take me off of all my pain meds. Very frustrating. We'll see what happens.
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