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I have tried to take doxy on a full stomach and drink a lot of liquid but I still get sick from it. Sometimes I throw up with it and sometimes I don't. Even when I can keep it down I am miserable 24/7. I hate feeling sick to my stomach all the time. I also take probitics.
I am suppose to take 300 mg. of doxy twice a day along with 500 mg. of Biaxin twice a day.
The Biaxin causes horrible diaherra. Does anyone have any suggestions for me?
Dekrator48
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Make sure your probiotics are really high quality ones and increase the amount you take.
I take Ultimate Flora Critical Care.
I started with one cap and increased until I felt better. I found that 4 caps nightly is right for me.
Also, the first time I took doxy (1st 3 months of treatment) I did get nauseated fairly frequently.
Now I am on it again and I have never gotten nauseated. I think months of really good probiotics helped alot.
I wish I had a miracle cure for this.
I also eat gluten free, sugar free, dairy free, soy free and avoid processed foods.
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I am still in my first three months on doxy, 200mg 2x/day.
Sometimes I get sick to my stomach about 45 minutes after taking it in the morning, and it lasts for half an hour and then quits.
I also get a runny nose and start sneezing at the same time.
It doesn't happen every day, and the only time it made me vomit was when I tried to take doxy on an empty stomach. I don't advise that.
Mine only seems to hit in the morning, even though I have eaten a full breakfast and a cup of green tea first.
I have wondered whether I didn't eat enough breakfast, or ate it too slowly or something? It seems to be okay when I take it after dinner.
I will try increasing my probiotics and see whether that helps me.
Since my nausea is not as severe or long lasting as yours, a few natural potato chips or salted almonds seem to calm it down until it has time to pass. Your dose is higher, so I'm sure that makes a difference.
I have the impression, which may be an illusion, that the nausea is less if I eat something with more carbs in it, like bread, pasta or potatoes. This could be wishful thinking, though--I am on a reduced carb diet and don't eat much of those things, but I wish I could.
I have found La Tortilla Factory low carb tortillas in the store (not gluten free, though), and have made chocolate cake with almond flour and stevia that seem breadlike enough to help if I eat them for breakfast.
My solution to this always used to be to take pills with milk or yogurt, but I'm not supposed to do that with doxy. I have done it by mistake before, and I think it does help the stomach at the time, but that couldn't be a good long term solution if it stops the drug from working.
With most drugs that give me minor side effects, they tend to go away after the first few weeks or months when my body gets used to them. I hope that will happen for me this time.
I say "minor" in my case, but I think nausea is more unbearable than pain, so if I had it all the time, I would be eager to find a solution.
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Wow... no wonder you feel like %%#&! 600mg a day of that stuff!!?? UGH!!! Then add in a mere 1,000 mg of Biaxin???
If you have insurance, you may want to consider Doryx. It is a special brand of doxy and does not cause the stomach so much trouble. It is really great stuff, but expensive.
Would your LLMD consider backing off the doxy, down to 400 or so??
You might also try taking the doxy in the MIDDLE of your meal, so it's "covered."
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Thanks! Lymetoo I do have insurance and I took the Doryx. It did help but I can still throw up on it. My insurance will not cover another dose of it as it was over $1000. for one month.
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- The Biaxin can stress the inner ear and that can lead to nausea.
What is your liver support? This is very important with anything that stresses the ear system. And good liver support will help tremendously with the "happiness" of then entire digestive system.
Milk Thistle is the one most LLMDs recommend. Are you taking that?
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What about taking Ginger Capsules an few hours before you take the Rx? GInger helps lessen nausea and has many other good properties. Capsules work much better than the tea for various reasons.
It would need to be continued, on a schedule, to maintain the preemptive effects.
Motion sickness due to inner ear stuff has profound effects on me. Ginger capsules are a miracle not only to settle it down, but to prevent it in the first place. It's safe enough that pregnant women often take it to prevent morning sickness.
Ginger has also been used with chemotherapy treatments to lessen nausea.
Taking it in advance works best and then more later if you need it - but, if you forget, even during times of nausea, it can take effect within ten minutes or so.
Eclectic Institute makes a very good Ginger Capsule. Tea can be soothing, too, it's just impossible to get the therapeutic dose from tea and tea can be sort of spicy-hot for some tender mouths. -
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Keebler
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- I suggest taking Ginger away from protbiotics as Ginger has some antifungal effects and can negate the action of probiotics if taken at the same time.
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From: The One Earth Herbal Sourcebook (Tillotson, et.al.)
WHAT IT DOES: Ginger root is pungent in taste, and warming, and mildly tonic in action. It improves digestion, reduces nausea and mucus, settles the stomach, and reduces inflammation.
SAFETY ISSUES: Ginger may increase absorption of pharmceuticals, and may irritate the stomach in sensitive individuals or those with severe acid reflux problems.
STARTING DOSAGE:
* Dried powder: 500-1500 mg one to three times per day
* Tea: drink freely . . .
* Because of its digestive and anti-nausea actions, ginger can be used to treat dyspepsia, nausea and vomiting associated with pregnancy, vertigo, dizziness and motion sickness (Schmid et al., 1994; Visalyaputra et al., 1998).
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Ginger acts as a digestive aid as well as a peripheral blood circulation stimulant, so it is useful for increasing poor circulation. Its pungent essential oils aid digestion by stimulating the activity of digestive enzymes (Platel K et al., 1998).
However, despite its hot spicy taste, ginger inhibits the synthesis of the ``bad-guy'' inflammatory chemicals, prostaglandin and thromboxane (Kiuchi et al., 1992).
TCM doctors tell us that fresh ginger is better than dry ginger for easing nausea, mucus, indigestion and stomach pain, and for stopping diarrhea caused by poor digestion. Conversely, they tell us dry ginger is better for warming the body.
The anti-inflammatory actions of ginger, noted centuries ago by TAM doctors, are strong enough to reduce muscular discomfort and pain in osteoarthritis and rheumatoid arthritis (Srivastava et al., 1992). . . .
HOMEOPATHIC remedies (pellets under the tongue) are also helpful. Nux-vomica never worked so well for me, but others say it helps them. Tabucum and Cocculus, together, have kept my stomach contents from showering air travelers - and it can have an immediate effect. Boiron is the brand I used but there are a couple other good brands.
Nux-vomica
Tabacum 30 c
Cocculus Indicus 30 c
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Acupuncture can help - but also having an acupuncturist teach you how to do it yourself as needed - and also teaching you acupressure on the wrist points. It was never enough for me, though - not by a long shot.
When I fly, I take both Ginger Capsules for prevention and then, if there is a disturbance of my inner universe, the homeopathics as needed.
As for taking Ginger not flying, it also helps reduce nausea and also is wonderful for a pain reducer and anti-inflammatory agent. I think it may also help lessen herx effects.
You might ask your LLMD about it. -
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Doxy only makes me nauseous in the mornings. I always take it right after breakfast. About 30 minutes after I take the Doxy, I take a ginger root capsule, make my 2nd cup of green tea and eat a small bowl of gluten free pretzel sticks.
As mentioned above, I think having some form of carbs helps.
Before I figured that out, I felt sick the first half of my day. I take ginger root throughout my day. It really helps.
Hope you feel better.
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Keebler
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- The gluten-free pretzels are a marvelous idea. Sea salt on them would be helpful, too.
Mary's Gone Crackers make many great flavors of gluten-free crackers, too. You can search Google under that name to find out more. -
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I second the salt. It worked for my vomiting or
urges a lot of times. Feel like I was going to- get
a pinch of salt and it would go away. I felt like
it was loss of electrolytes, so that may help to to
replace with some mixes they have for vomiting and
diarrhea.
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