I have cyproheptadine, it's an antihistmaine among other things. I once read somwehere that lowering an allergic reaction with an antihistamine is also lowering your immune system which I don't want to do if my immune system si trying to fight the lyme bugs.. but i've only read that once and i don't even remember where.
Does anyone have more infromation (or just an answer) on whether it's wise to take antihistamines when on antibitoics to treat lyme? I don't want to lower anything but that may just be crazy talk anyway because i've heard of people using benadryll to lower herxing reactions and i know there a lot of people with concurrent Lyme + allergies...
Thank you ver y much, i don't have the energy to reserach this on my own right now
Elizabeth
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I've never heard that.
Sending this up for others with more knowledge than me.
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I don't have the answer either, but I do take Benadryl for nausea and for shrtness of breath.
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Cyproheptadine is an antihistamine and anticholinergic that your'e supposed to take 4mg every four hours...
I have extreme medicine sensitivity and can only take ONE FOURTH of that, 1mg, per 24 HOURS. When I put it like that I doubt there would be a problem even if antihistamines WERE bad during lyme treatment. But if anyone has infomration I'd still love to hear it. Thanks again
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I have come across that before as well ( about antihistamines depressing the immune system )
Antihistamines work differently to immune suppressing drugs. They block the H2 receptors and stop the histamine having an effect.
I have recently restarted treatment with Mepron, Zithromax, Bactrim and Plaquenil. herxing has been FIERCE for the last 2 weeks, but I was at the point of quitting because of the nausea. My LLMD suggests Zyrtec 10mg. What a difference!!!! The nausea is manageable, I am eating, but also I think that with the decrease in generalised inflammation, my meds are now getting into the tissues better.....I am mini-herxing again.
I am only taking 5mg, not 10mg. Even though it is the non-drowsy Reactine......I am SO relaxed and spaced out....like after a glass of wine or two!! Works for Me!!
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Cyproheptadine - (. . . trade name Periactin) is an antihistaminic/anticholinergic and antiserotonergic agent. It acts as a 5-HT2 receptor antagonist as well and also blocks calcium channels.[1] . . .
. . . While not specifically used as a sedative, cyproheptadine causes drowsiness,[18] as is common with first-generation antihistamines.
Research has shown a suppression of growth hormone with doses of 8-12 mg per day taken for 5 days.[19]
Other common side effects include:[20]
Dizziness Blurred vision Constipation [poster's note: that will keep more toxins in your body] Dry mouth, throat, or nose [poster's note: that can lead to mouth infections] Excitability Nausea Nervousness Restlessness . . . .
In trying to determine if this Rx uses the C P-450 liver detox pathway (which I suspect it does or there would not have been the porphyria warning in the UK site), I came upon this abstract.
Now, I have no idea what it means. It could say that this Rx either encourages - or discourages - yeast growth. But, I would want to know more about that.
Department of Health and Human Services, National Center for Toxicological Research, Jefferson, AS 72079, USA.
* Metabolites formed during incubation of the antihistamine cyproheptadine hydrochloride with the zygomycete fungus Cunninghamella elegans in liquid culture were determined.
. . . These results are consistent with the fungal epoxidation and hydroxylation reactions being catalysed by cytochrome P450 monooxygenases . . . . -
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Doesn't make sense to me. Anti-histamines can lower allergic response and that's a good thing. I'm always having this kind of conversation with my LLMD, and it always seems to be a positive approach to be taking.
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- There are many ways to lower inflammation to lesses a herx. If one is not right for you, there are other choices.
Magnesium and Fish oil are at the top of the list. Turmeric (and its stronger extract, Curcumin) are also very helpful.
A gluten-free diet lowers inflammation as does eating lots of colorful veggies and a moderate amount of low sugar fruits like dark berries and tart apples.
Liver support also helps to lower inflammation.
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This is included in Burrascano's Guidelines, but you may want to be able to refer to it separately, too:
WHAT IT DOES: Turmeric root is bitter in taste and warming in action. It strongly reduces inflammation and mucus in all parts of the body, protects the liver, lungs and intestines . . . .
- full article at link above. From ``The One Earth Herbal Sourcebook'' (Tilltoson, et.al.)
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