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Curious to know - can anyone explain this in laymans terms? Wondering what takes place that causes the sweats and only at night.
Thanks, Aimee
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nefferdun
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Me too and also the nightly hot flashes from bart.
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Do you get the hot flashes every night? I seem to get them less frequently - usually only when I am herxing. I notice that my son gets the drenching sweats at least two or three times a week if not more often. I can't figure out why they don't happen every night and why in the world they only occur at night and not during the day.
Sure hope someone here has an answer I can understand!
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Sometimes I think I night sweat when I'm treating too hard. Other times I think I get them because I'm not treating hard enough.
I wish I had a better answer for you.
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richedie
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But not everyone, I never had them.
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I don't have them, either... My doc thinks I have babs, though.
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Many factors are at play but the ones paramount are the level of glucose, the level of oxygen AND the presence of the inflammatory cytokines.
When oxygen levels are low (due to anemia), we need more glucose. Our blood glucose level at night is not normally high.
"Combined oxygen and glucose deprivation can induce neuronal damage which is in part
***mediated through NMDA receptors.***" (Glutamate receptors)
Hypoglycemia has been linked to night sweats and it is called NOCTURNAL HYPOGLYCEMIA.
While babesia is not the pathogen that causes malaria, there are many similarities.
"Babesiosis: malaria mimic." PMID: 567426
"Although not often expressed in energy terms, there is, when reduced to biochemical essentials, wide agreement that infection with falciparum malaria is often fatal because
mitochondria are unable to generate enough ATP to maintain normal cellular function.
Most, however, would contend that this largely occurs because sequestered parasitized red cells prevent sufficient oxygen getting to where it is needed.
This review considers the evidence that an equally or more important way ATP deficency arises in malaria, as well as these other infectious diseases,
is an inability of mitochondria, through the effects of inflammatory cytokines on their function, to utilise available oxygen.
This activity of these cytokines, plus their capacity to control the pathways through which oxygen supply to mitochondria are restricted
(particularly through directing sequestration and driving anaemia), combine to make
falciparum malaria primarily an inflammatory cytokine-driven disease."
In life-threatening cases (ONLY), an exchange transfusion is allowed.
OmegaBrite is available in children's dosages. It contains a high level of EPA, some DHA and some vitamin E. The first 2 are "Omega 3 fatty acids". They are VERY anti-inflammatory.
Mitochondrial dysfunction happens in lyme too.
What is involved is Cyclophilin D which is in the mitochondria. It maybe the gate for PTP = Protein tyrosine phosphatases.
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not sure... i have always had a problem with them, but since i started taking anti-biotics i swear my entire day is a hot flash! i've been taking ice-cold showers non-stop to try to stay sane... i am SO miserable... i just can't cool down!
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Yea, I had no night sweats....but I have had some day sweats. I have had three positive tests for Babesia, low red blood cell counts and some minor air hunger.
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It has also been my experience that treating one infection will bring out one of the others not being treated. When my borrelia was suppressed the bart came out and then when I treated the bart I had babesia symptoms. I have had air hunger, cold sweating followed by shaking and always no stamina - breathless after any exertion, even climbing stairs. After nearly 6 months of bart treatment, my hot flashes are very much diminished now.
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Marnie - very informative - I'll have to have my husband read and understand and the re-explain to me though! My brain is a little foggy these days.
Aimee
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richedie
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quote:Originally posted by nefferdun: It has also been my experience that treating one infection will bring out one of the others not being treated. When my borrelia was suppressed the bart came out and then when I treated the bart I had babesia symptoms. I have had air hunger, cold sweating followed by shaking and always no stamina - breathless after any exertion, even climbing stairs. After nearly 6 months of bart treatment, my hot flashes are very much diminished now.
I noticed none of that.
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I experience WAY more day sweats than night. I don't know if I've ever really had a night sweat from Babs to be honest. Am + for Babs through Quest and other junk labs. FISH test, too.
Marnie, any explanation for day sweats? Maybe O2 concentration due to borderline anemia even WITH glucose (eating many small meals throughout the day) is to blame?
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I don't know what causes the sweats but, like Dawn in VA, I just have day sweats. I sweat pretty often when I'm just sitting around or doing normal activities. I don't sweat when I sleep.
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PS And how-dy! my day sweats are very stinky!
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Dawn my day sweats are stinky too. I tend to sweat in the pitts. It comes on suddenly and profusely. Doc says this is lyme.
What a nice addition to all my other lyme symptoms!
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My sweats are usually from my hands and feet. So there's no smell, but it's still pretty frustrating when I'm typing and anxiety-causing when I need to shake someone's hand...
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I can light up like a firecracker, but there will no sweat at all. Zilch. It actually feels like someone lit a match deep inside, but my skin is dry??????????
And no these are not perimenopausal or menopausal. Just something that raises it ugly head every so often. They are only during the day. Go on for a few weeks.
Then they are gone again. I just don't believe they are babs related at all.
Pam
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