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alextaylor14
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I have brain fog, dizziness, twitches, tight sore muscles with some joint pain with and some joint stiffness. Is it possible to have Lyme with out a lot of joint pain? I was tested today by the way so I won't know for sure for a while.
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I never had the joint pain, but alot of neurological issues. My WB was light up like a christmas tree! Hope you get some answers soon!
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Yes. The Lyme can cause neuro problems and your

body can actually be experiencing loss of sensation

in many areas and not be appreciably noticed long

term. This is why many experience

jerks/twitches/etc. after starting treatment.

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unable to identify.Igenex Jan.09IFA titer 1:40 IND
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31 +++ 34 IND 39 IND 41 IND 83-93 +
DX:Neuroborreliosis

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I never had joint pain. I had lyme, babesiosis, and bartonella.

By the way, the tests aren't that reliable, so a lot of people who have lyme get a negative test result. A doctor who has treated many, many lyme patients will tell you whether or not you have it--based on your symptoms and a trial of antibiotics, in many cases.

To get your education on this disease, why not read the Burrascano lyme treatment guidelines found here:

http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/B_guidelines_12_17_08.pdf

On pages 9-10 is a list of symptoms. Not everyone has every symptom, but the more you have the more likely the diagnosis.

Also, the Quest and LabCorp tests miss at least half the cases of lyme disease. Igenex is the best lab to test for tick borne diseases, but they are expensive.

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Joint pain is waaaay down on my list of symptoms, but like the poster above, my Western Blot lit up like a Christmas tree....

No question about what I'm afflicted with! So the answer is : YES

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ABSOLUTELY. All neuro and cognitive for me.

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Severe neurological problems. Probably sick for years. Became chronically sick in Aug 2007. Undiagnosed for another 15 months. Started treatment for lyme and bart Sept. 2008. Improving, but very slowly.

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No joint pain, no headaches.

Neuro and cognitive.
Balance is the pits.

Lyme, Babs and Bartonella

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I have had some joint pain but it comes and goes, does not seem like a major problem most of the time. My main issues are fatigue, fatigue and fatigue. And brain function.
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Thanks guys for all the help. I continue to get more answers here than from doctors.
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Me too! No joint pain except my right knee, after walking 5 miles at Relay for Life. Then it went away.

Never ANY joint pain for me. My WB also lit up like a christmas tree!!! CDC positive.

Lyme, bart, babs, who knows what else.

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Absolutely, absolutely!!

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It took me nearly 24 years of no diagnosis and the beginning of treatment for lyme that my joint issues showed up, and they aren't a big deal The more I treat Babs though, the more laxity I have, which brings on more joint symtoms.

No joint stuff for decades. Really. All neuro and psych.

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yes!
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Maybe mild joint point in fingers in the beginning that went away after a couple of months, but mostly neurological symptoms, fried brain, twitching, etc. I had neuro lyme.

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Strains...variety.

http://www.springerlink.com/content/r326621214383n86/

More than one strain can be transmitted to a person:

http://jcm.asm.org/cgi/content/abstract/33/3/602

Not to mention the ability to change its Osps (outer surface proteins) or cloak them to avoid immmune detection.

This pathogen adapts to its environment and can indeed trigger different "symptoms" as a result.

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Joint and muscle pain have never been my major complaint. A lot of times I never had any at all.

But, like you, brain fog, and muscle twitches were really bad. Plus insomnia, nightmares, overwhelming exhaustion, memory problems, weird skin problems, anxiety, and just about everything else.

I was diagnosed last year with Lyme, Bart and Babs.

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i dont have any joint pain, i use to get swollen knees years ago but now just have all the symptoms you describe. I was diagnosed in january this year and only been treating for 8 weeks.
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Absolutely.

My husband has lyme, my daughter has lyme, and I have lyme.

My husband has more neurological symptoms: twitching, stuttering, and anxiety.

My daughter and I have more fatigue and arthritic issues, knees mainly, but hips and ankles too.

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