feelfit
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Bartonella Can Be Transmitted in Utero Thu, May 6, 2010 Featured, Lyme Symptoms
Press Release from North Carolina State University:
North Carolina State University clinical researcher Dr. Ed Breitschwerdt has found blood and tissue evidence of Bartonella in twins born to parents with chronic headaches, memory loss, shortness of breath, muscle weakness, and fatigue. One twin, now 10, has been chronically ill since birth. His sister died at 9-days-old of a heart defect. Autopsy DNA results showed evidence of two strains of Bartonella.
Link to the Press Release with a short video of Dr. Breitschwerdt
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- The video is very nice.
Thanks for that clear and stunning press release. How very sad for those parents and child and yet, the family may now have some chance at getting better. Hopefully, this will shine a light where it's been so very dark.
You say in your headline "more" - this is the first I've seen on this from this particular researcher. Is there more from him? If so, is that a thread, other posts, books, etc.? I'm familiar with the topic in general, but this is the first of heard of this researcher.
My guess is that, since it is not just tick-borne (and he does not even mention ticks in the video) that the CDC won't clobber this but it sure is something new to have something like this come out of a major university. He presents it very clearly. Don't see how anyone (even the CDC or IDSA) can argue with his findings.
More Excerpts from link above:
Breitschwerdt's research appears online in the April 14 Journal of Clinical Microbiology.
``This is yet more evidence that Bartonella bacteria cause chronic intravascular infections in people with otherwise normal immune systems, infections that can span a decade or more,'' Breitschwerdt says.
``Also this new evidence supports the potential of trans-placental infection and raises the possibility that maternal infection with these bacteria might also cause birth defects.''
The Department of Clinical Sciences is part of NC State's College of Veterinary Medicine. Dr. Breitschwerdt is also an adjunct professor of medicine at Duke University Medical Center.
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It may be a good idea for us to copy the press release to our computer files before the IDSA finds a way to make this disappear. -
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I know, this is a big issue I'm struggling with right now. How does one determine if it got passed? Will all kids be really sick from birth? Or, can it be vague and progress? I also have twins and I'm really not so concerned about one. But, the other has some very mild symptoms (fungal nails, ocd-like lining up of toys, mild photosensitivity, a tic in his shoulder when he's tired/nervous).
We've talked to his ped about each of these (not all connected) and he had very reasonable explanations for each of these, which we're also very comfortable with, except, now, I'm thinking Lyme (sometimes it's hard not to see it everywhere).
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My LLMD believes that the coinfections are really not as big of a deal as long as they are not transmitted along with lyme disease.
If lyme is not passed from mother to child, then infection with the other coinfections resolves itself.
However, lyme is a gatekeeper and allows the other infections to become chronic.
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Pinelady
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Good point lymers. Which is most likely why they
lost a child and have been sick at least 10 years.
The family was not described to have Lyme but
should be ruled out for information to be all
encompassing.
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- lymers,
I strongly question what your doctor says - or at least say it's not so cut and dried.
You said: " . . . My LLMD believes that the coinfections are really not as big of a deal as long as they are not transmitted along with lyme disease.
If lyme is not passed from mother to child, then infection with the other coinfections resolves itself. " end quote.
Coinfections can be a VERY big deal. And they do not just resolve on their own. In the case of this family, it seems bartonella was alone, the destruction. (I assumed they would have assessed for lyme and with no mention of that, it was determined not to be involved.)
There are many very serious chronic stealth infections that are not resolving on their own for many people. These may be with or without lyme. Lyme is not the only bad boy on the block by any means.
Ehrlichia and Babesia can kill, independent of lyme. Chlamydia Pneumonia can be very serious, indeed. ( see: www.cpnhelp.org )
Of course, we can never be sure lyme is not/ was not involved with the fatalities and complications of other tick-borne infections (or other stealth infections). Nevertheless, it's clear that we have much to learn about all stealth infections. -
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Personal thought-if they can get the money to do the research by saying bart,bees,bedbugs-I don't care as long as they get it.
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