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lyme in Putnam
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Can't focus on anything else even with meds. LLMD helping, stumped her. I do bills in house, cook, pretend like I'm me, but I'm tired of it for so long. How do you make it through? trying everything, going to psych today, but am afraid she can't help either. Scared.

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lyme in Putnam
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so sorry I keep asking, but am really grasping btw. docs and people having this. Have lyme and bart.

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lajamur
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hi there,

sorry you're feeling so poorly. when my anxiety/ocd/ruminating gets bad i load up on transdermal magnesium and STRONG organic chamomile tea (think 2 teabags steeping for 20 mins). this takes the edge off.

have you tried a natural approach to maybe make yourself a little more comfortable while you figure things out with your doc and psych?

usually the transdermal mag (oral doesn't work for me, and it upsets my stomach), chamomile tea, and a substantial meal will help to ground me for a while.

also, i don't know how bad your symptoms are or what kind of shape your joints are in but another thing that helps me is taking a long, brisk walk.

the lyme fried my adrenals and endocrine system and i had to be put on bioidentical progesterone indefinitely which has also helped a lot with these kinds of symptoms. i just posted about my experience with that in jin's "hormonal hell" thread. if you are female you may want to investigate that. correcting my hormonal imbalance has made me a lot more physically and emotionally comfortable.

hope you get some relief soon. i know the repetitive thoughts etc can be very upsetting.

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lyme in Putnam
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Thank you so much for your advice.

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My Neurologist just gave me a home test kit (urine) to find out what kind of imbalances I have with my

hormones. When she gets results she will be customizing a plan for me. You take the urine test

and mail it out. The company is NeuroScience (800)342-7272 www.neuroscienceinc.com. It will be

very interesting to see the results. I'm praying it will help some of my issues. Good luck to you.

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wanted to add one more thing --

when it comes to ruminating/ocd/repetitive thoughts, the consensus seems to be that the best thing you can do is try to just "watch" the thought... as in, don't try to fight it or silence it.

this is a cornerstone of cognitive-behavioral therapy. it really does help if you practice it.

if an upsetting thought enters your mind, try to just observe it and say "oh, isn't that interesting," and go about your business as usual. other possible "replies" include:

- "okay"
- "so what?"
- "is that all you can come up with?"

over time this can retrain your brain so that the intrusive thoughts, though they may not be gone, will hopefully not inspire as much fear/upset as they used to.

the thoughts won't seem as noisy/overwhelming this way. you may not be able to shut them up, but you can still show them who's boss and choose not to let them send you into a state of extreme anxiety. it's YOUR mind! again it takes practice and may not work at first, but over time this technique can really help ease some of the "thought pressure."

hope you're feeling a little better!

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great advice lajamur, I'm having a horrible time with OCD right now. Just started 2 weeks ago and

feel like I will go crazy if it won't stop. I keep thinking really horrible repetitive thoughts then I

get really sick feeling in gut. It's freaking me out. I will try your advice.

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lajamur
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hi abbyjo!

i understand about the sick feeling. when my anxiety gets bad i get super nauseated. it's a terrible feeling. occasionally it actually gets to the point where i will dry heave. totally miserable. this happens to me a few times a year. most of the time i can just grit my teeth until it passes.

i understand how scary it can be -- it still freaks me out, but not the way it used to. your brain is just doing some weird stuff right now but it can't actually hurt you.

the thoughts cannot hurt you, no matter how persistent they are.

i am 27 and have been dealing with this stuff since i was in the second grade! i believe i have a naturally anxious disposition and that the lyme (undiagnosed for many years) has simply made it much, much worse.

so if it's any consolation... i have had just about every scary thought you can come up with, and i've lived through all of it, and things are continuing to slowly improve.

i know what it's like when you feel stuck in your head. i wouldn't wish it on anyone. but i hope knowing that someone else "gets it" helps you feel a little better. when i was at my worst i always felt comforted hearing from others who had experienced something similar and lived to tell the tale. [Smile]

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lyme in Putnam
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thank you so much for advice. I am on meds to unglue the thoughts but the lyme/co's are stronger at this point. Thanks for the points.

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Thank you lajamur! I had such a better day thanks to you!! Seriously, understanding what it is and

knowing it's not just me and I'm not going crazy. I took your advice on trying not to fight it and

tell myself it's o.k. when ever a thought rose up and my gut is so much better today, as well as the nagging thoughts.

Yes, it is awful when you can't escape your thoughts...I would not have understood before and

would not wish this on anybody. I'm so glad I can come here and always find people that really

understand. Thank you again soooooo much, I hope you continue to improve, best wishes!

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I say, thanks for sharing (ie, I guess that's the acknowledgement part), but now I'm going to switch the channel, and I do, whatever that change is that I instigate. Turn on the telly, the radio, leave the room, grab a book I want to read, whatever.

I think you need some more treatment and I hope you can find what will help.

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