Do not ignore this subject. Many allergies are caused by worm infections.
A colon cleanse, yes, to start, but then you need to go heavier pharmaceuticals.
Take care.
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GiGi,
Why do you feel pharmaceuticals are necessary?
I much prefer the herbal/natural route.
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Because Dr. K says they are necessary probably. That seems to be his experience.
Oh, I've got some major type of allergy lately. Eyes watering like crazy, nose pouring clear liquid, feel inflamed, etc. Posts: 7545 | From The 5th Dimension - The Twilight Zone | Registered: Mar 2008
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In my personal experience it takes many courses of antiparasitic herbs over a long period to get rid of all the parasites/worms, eggs and larva that have been deposited in the G.I. track.
GiGi has been posting about this way before I was and she is so right. I am still trying to get rid of them after 4 yrs.(Have gotten rid of a TON)Pharmaceuticals may be stronger and faster than herbs?
Not sure since I haven't had an LLMD for quite a while. Allergies are definitely on the list of symptoms for parasites. Maybe GiGi can give some insight on pharma vs herbs.
Gael
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Canefan, Seek answered correctly. When he treated me 12 years ago for parasites, he took a more gentle approach. That has changed because it ain't working that way. I have posted several parasite protocols; but go here http://www.neuraltherapy.com/LymeProtocolOct09.pdf starting page 59 etc. Some people who test for it do also Salt & Co (www.Lymephotos.com)
From my experience, it takes all that are mentioned and more. Alinia is most important after you open the door a bit with a ton of artemisinin to punch holes into the biofilm and address all that falls in the parasite category. Artemisinin alone will not do it either.
Find someone to test you frequently energetically on the different meds. It is best to learn it yourself with tensor or pendulum, whatever turns you on.
You will not get well while the parasites are depleting your body. We need a few of the good ones (we carry about 12 pounds of parasites in general) ---- but the majority took advantage of us making hay while the sun shines. They are also holding up the metals and once on a parasite program, you will also test for metals . I found it alternates every few days. Just like someone opened the door to let the other out!
Alinia used to cost a fortune - I know people who had to take it for a year --- but there is a pharmacy to the north,with prescription, very reasonable. AIDS people used to belong to a club in order to get it. Thank goodness that is no longer necessary. E-mail me if you want the name.
Take care.
P.S. Insight - pharmaceuticals vs herbs. You need both. See protocol, link above. Beware parasites bladder/urinary tract. Ever wondered why since you had Lyme you need to go pee now and not in five minutes?
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GiGi, link you posted about does not work. Could you please repost the correct link?
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Just curious as to why some of the leading LLMD's don't address this. I see Dr. J in DC and am wondering if he knows about this or treats for parasites. He's treated 1000s of lyme patients. Why doesn't Dr. B suggest this?
Why are we having to do all this research when I feel like this is what we are paying our LLMDs for - to listen to their protocol to get us well.
the whole parasite thing is confusing me. I want to treat for parasites, but exactly how do I do that? I want to get well, but what if my dr. doesn't suggest this.
I guess I want someone to tell me this is exactly what you take for x amount of weeks or this is what you need to do. Instead, so many confusing products, methods to go about doing this...some pharmaceutical, other herbal.
If I ask Dr. J about taking antiparasitic drugs, will he look at me like I'm crazy? I mean, why wouldn't he suggest this to begin with??
(sorry, don't mean to sound rude in my post, I am just curious and frustrated at the same time, not annoyed with you all)
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Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS), when mixed it forms acidified Chlorine Dioxide. It oxidizes acidic bacteria.
Do a search for more info.
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Canefan, see page 64 in the same link for artemisinin. Artemisinin is used throughout treatment mixed into a cocktail along with several of the other meds because it has other applications - biofilm, viral, parasites, worms.
With killing of various organisms including parasites, metals will energetically test again to be treated --- and all that goes into the cocktail, mixed once a day and then consumed during the day. Open capsules and add all the other, including Rizoles, etc
Take care.
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Cane,
I started with 1/4 tsp of sea salt and 1/4tsp of ester C powder with bioflavinoids in a large glass of water per day. Drinking extra water throughout the day is important to circulate the salt.
I ramped up 1/4 tsp at a time according to how i was herxing. I do 20 gms a day and I am only 5'2" and weigh 130lbs. I am not suggesting everyone do this dose, but that's what My body tolerates.
My b/p usually runs a steady 120/90. IMPERATIVE to drink a lot of water for the protocol to work well, to help flush things out and to stay well hydrated. RAMP UP SLOWLY. PACE NOT RACE. This is a powerful protocol and puts the parasites into osmotic shock.
Hope this helps.
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Jwall, It is too bad that most Lyme doctors have not had Lyme themselves. If they did, they would approach the subject in a manner that would benefit us all. Dr.K. had Lyme himself and realized a decade or longer ago that the treatment has been and is becoming more and more inadequate. Our environment has changed totally within the last decade and the microorganisms are adjusting to this disaster we have created and are giving us a much harder time than ever before.
We are dealing with highly intelligent mircoorganisms and they are hellbent on survival using every trick to do just that. And unless we learn a lesson and broaden our horizon and change our attitude with our spray cans, we will suffer more and more.
Take care.
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Massman, I hear you and I agree that our grandparents had to use other resources other than pharmas before they became available.
I think that the antiparasitic herbs and things like salt/c are extemely effective. I think what GiGi is saying that since we have access to the drugs now to incorporate them as well.
My only concern with the antiparasitic drugs is that they may be hard on the liver and if you have to stay on them for a long time that could be a problem.
Herbs call for extensive tx as well, but probably cause less stress on the organs.
Gael
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jwall,
Our LLMDs are really mainstream medical doctors that specialize in the tx of Lyme disease. They haven't been trained extensively in parasitology mainly because it is thought that parasites are a Third World Country problem.
Even the best LLMDs are not informed unless they are followers of Dr. K. I would definitely mention this to your doctor and see what he says. I don't blame you for being frustrated about this since you are the patient.
Unfortunately, sometimes we as Lyme patients have to do more research on our own.
I had one of the best LLMDs in the country, but until I started to treat for parasites I did not get well. Not sure if the Dr. J. you are seeing is the same one that Gary (aka lymetwister) is seeing, but if it is he is doing much better since going to this doc.
Gael
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