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I have major thrush. I took diflucan for three days and now I am doing nystatin swish and swallow. I am avoiding all the forbidden foods (it's hard). I take mega acidolphilus , kefir, and saccrylardees boulardii . Am I supposed to stop taking the saccrylardees boulardii on nystatin? I boil my toothbrushes after each use and wash my mouth out with salt water as well. Any other suggestions. Missing my Gatorade . It is my oxygen.
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How much diflucan are you taking?
For really bad thrush, I took 200 to 300mg daily for at least 7 days in a row as per LLMD.
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The bottle says take 200mg 2 times a day for 2 days and then as necessary. My primary care doctor gave me nystatin. Did you do both?
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I use to crush garlic up in cottage cheese and eat it. It always amazed me how quickly the white stuff on my tongue went away with garlic.
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200mg b.i.d.? Thazzalot! (Hard on liver) I know the pharmacist told me the maximum recommended dosage of flucanazole (DiFlucan)is 200mg PER DAY, acc. to the maker.
Spozed to seriously weaken the 'Ketes though! Something about inhibiting the cytochrome C450 defense, I bleeve. Makes 'em more vulnerable.
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- Sugar-free Gatorade is still loaded with chemicals.
Green Tea is my oxygen. I add a drop of Bergamot oil and it's like Earl Grey.
Yogi Tea Chai Green is also very nice. There are many wonderful ways to give some variety to green tea. White tea is good, too.
EmerGen-C also comes in many flavors.
It's important to avoid anything with any artificial ingredient. This partially explains why, just regarding dyes:
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[No mention of this, but these are also used in pharmaceuticals.]
The Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI) says food dyes pose a number of risks to the American public and is calling on the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to ban three of the most commonly used dyes: Red 40, Yellow 5 and Yellow 6. A new CSPI report says those dyes contain known carcinogens and contaminants that unnecessarily increase the risks of cancer, hyperactivity in children and allergic reactions.
"These synthetic chemicals do absolutely nothing to improve the nutritional quality or safety of foods, but trigger behavior problems in children and, possibly, cancer in anybody," said CSPI executive director Michael Jacobson, co-author of the report. "The Food and Drug Administration should ban dyes, which would force industry to color foods with real food ingredients, not toxic petrochemicals." . . .
. . . According to the report, tests done on lab animals found contaminants that raised health concerns about several of the nine dyes currently approved for market. The approved dyes are Blue 1 & 2, Citrus Red 2, Green 3, Orange B, Red 3 & 40 and Yellow 5 & 6. And every year, about 15 million pounds of these dyes wind up in our food, with alot of it ending up in things like candy, fruit drinks and cereals.
. . . Britain in 2008 . . . . For example, CSPI says McDonald's Strawberry Sundaes get their color from fresh strawberries. The group says in the United States the color comes from Red dye 40. CSPI say in the UK, Fanta orange soda coloring comes from pumpkins and carrot extract. Here, it says the color comes from Red 40 and Yellow 6 dye. . . .
Eur J Clin Nutr. 2007 Aug 8; [Epub ahead of print] Links
Direct and indirect cellular effects of aspartame on the brain.
Excerpt:
. . . Previously, it has been reported that consumption of aspartame could cause neurological and behavioural disturbances in sensitive individuals.
Headaches, insomnia and seizures are also some of the neurological effects that have been encountered, and these may be accredited to changes in regional brain concentrations of catecholamines, which include norepinephrine, epinephrine and dopamine. . . .
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Ahh... yes. Red #40. My sister & I would watch a drop "explode" as it went underwater. Then we drank the stuff.
These food colorings have prob. permanently colored some of our internal organs, but since they're red & brown Anyway...
I know they banned Some red food coloring # back in the late '60s or early '70s. The red M&Ms then vanished, for quite a while, as I recall.
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I had yeast pretty bad last week, and it is much better after several days on diflucan.
I have also been taking grapefruit seed extract, Solaray Yeast Cleanse, and Garlinase garlic pills, along with extra probiotics and avoiding high carb foods.
Personally I think the diet has the largest impact, but I'm sure some or all of the other stuff worked. Taking all of it together is probably overkill, but those are ideas you can try if your current efforts aren't enough.
I stopped my antibiotics for the past week but will restart one of them shortly.
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Clotrimazole tabs. Nickle size lozenge you dissolve in mouth. They made me sick but it kills the thrush.
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Lightattheend. Could you please tell me some of the things you are avoiding in your diet? Could you please tell me what you are eating. To keebler-I am drinking green tea with a lemon as we speak. Thanks for the info on dyes. To all above-thanks for your input. To everyone on lymenet-perhaps I should change my name to Green Tea Girl:).
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To fight yeast, you want to avoid everything that turns into sugar (glucose) in your body. This is called a low carb diet and is similar to the Atkins diet.
For me a low carb diet has had other benefits as well--I lost weight, stabilized my blood sugar, and reduced my systemic inflammation, which reduced my asthma symptoms and probably helps reduce Lyme symptoms. It may not work equally well for everyone, but it could be beneficial beyond fighting yeast. It is often recommended for Lyme patients. So don't worry that you might harm yourself with the wierd diet.
Protein and fat are okay. The yeast feeds off sugar. So for yeast fighting purposes, you can eat all the meat, eggs, and other sources of protein you want. Try to get grass fed or organic meat if you can.
Coconut oil is good for cooking, good for rubbing on skin, and is antifungal, antibacterial, antiviral and antiparasitical, so it's a good thing to add. It also has calories, when you're having trouble eating enough. It doesn't have much flavor so it goes well with everything.
Along with the protein, you need lots of vegetables, except for the starchy ones (those have a lot of carbs, which turn into a lot of glucose). All the green and salad-type vegetables are great for you. They are carbs too, but they are complex carbs with a lot of fiber and nutrients to go along with it.
You can eat fruit, if it doesn't bother you by causing a yeast reaction, if you stick to the lower sugar fruits that have a lot of fiber. So berries, stone fruits, apples and melons are good. Lemons and limes are okay. Bananas, oranges and tropical fruit have too much sugar and not enough fiber. If you eat it for dessert, after the protein and vegetables, it will have the least impact on the yeast or your blood sugar.
Many herbs and spices as well as garlic and onion have bacteria- and fungus-fighting properties, so they are good for you as well as adding flavor and variety to meat, eggs and vegetables.
You can make soup, stir fries, etc.
Stevia is a good sweetener--it's made from an herb. It doesn't feed yeast and it isn't a chemical.
Almond flour or meal (ground up almonds) has been a godsend to me since I had to give up bread. You can use it to make biscuits, cookies, pizza dough, chocolate cake and pancakes. You have to look for recipes specially for it. You can't substitute it for regular flour because it doesn't absorb liquid, and you may need something in the recipe to hold it together.
You may need to adapt almond flour recipes to use stevia as a sweetener instead of Splenda or sugar etc. Almond flour is expensive (especially for new cooking experiments that may or may not come out well the first time), but you may find a better price ordering larger amounts online.
If you must eat some higher carb foods, then look for whole grains, and stay away from wheat and gluten. Quinoa is a good one that contains a lot of protein. Also eat carb foods together with fat and protein, and they will have less effect on yeast and blood sugar because they're absorbed more slowly.
Some say you should avoid dairy products or cheese while fighting yeast and some say it's okay. You might try without it and see if you feel better, and then add it back and see if it makes any difference either way for you. Whole milk is preferable to skim milk when you are eating low carb.
I drink decaf green tea and lemonade or limeade made from the juice of one lemon/lime with a few drops of stevia and a can of sparkling water. The lemon juice is good for detox, and the sparkling water makes me feel like I can have something resembling soda so I feel less deprived for giving it up.
In trying to avoid just trans fats, high fructose corn syrup and MSG, that was enough to have to give up most processed, frozen and restaurant foods.
Whole Foods has a fantastic deli section with cooked food and all kinds of healthy ingredients--good place to find a wide variety of processed and prepared foods without a lot of chemicals or added sugar.
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And to be specific on what I'm avoiding, I try to avoid sugar and anything made of flour or grain or white potatoes. Too bad that's all my favorite foods...
I'm not sure about when it's for yeast, but when it's for blood sugar or weight loss, you can have some of these things as long as you keep your total grams of carbohydrate below a certain amount per day.
You subtract the grams of fiber from the grams of carb, and try to keep your average per day between 60g and 120g (or some people eat even less than that). You quickly figure out that you have a choice between a tiny sliver of chocolate cake and a large plate of broccoli or something, but then you can cheat a little without going off the diet as a whole.
There are websites such as Fitday where you can track everything you eat and its nutritional content, if you want to know exactly what you're eating and how it relates to changes in your health.
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PS, when yeast shut down my digestion for a couple of days, I was afraid to eat almost anything.
I managed on organic hot dogs, kefir, chili with added coconut oil, soft scrambled eggs in butter, pickled salad and a little fruit for a few days until my digestion seemed back to normal. I couldn't eat much at a time and needed to eat something soft and chew it very well.
Anything pureed might have worked. I have visited a nursing home where, when people had trouble chewing, the kitchen put ALL their food through the blender first, so that's possible.
Now I'm back to eating all the things I described above.
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Thanks much light at ten end. Your information has been most helpful. Feel good.
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