tick battler
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I'm thinking of adding this therapy for my children, as I'm wondering if it could in part be the cause of their attention, behavior and OCD issues. (I know the Lyme/coinfections are also the cause and am treating them with abx.)
Has anyone seen success with this?
Thanks,
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Have you read Dr. Nambudripads book(s) about this ?
What prompted you to be interested in it ?
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I've done it. I consider that I had success but not in the way that you would normally think of as success.
The first time around was years ago. We worked on a lot of foods. I still seemed to be allergic to the foods shortly after completion and still tested that I was allergic via alternative lab testing.
Then I was treated for lyme disease and on the advice of my LLMD I went into NAET treatment again to be treated for a specific substance this time with a different practioner. Her testing showed I was not allergic to the things that had been previously treated.
She treated me for the one thing that my doctor wanted me to be treated for but he has never prescribed the medication again so I have no clue if it worked. I think many of my food allergies were related to lyme disease and what helped to fix them was lyme treatment and healing my gut.
I did have the new practioner treat me for mold sensitivity and that made me sick for well over a month and I mean REALLY sick. I think it woke up my immune system to mold. It convinced me that we have mold in our house that needs to be dealt with so that was a success in my view.
I will go back after we are rid of the mold issues. NAET now addresses pathogens and many other things besides food allergies.
There was a poster here at lymenet calle joey and I think he has some experience with NAET. Maybe you could PM him or perhaps he'll see this and respond.
Terry I'm not a doctor
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What is NAET the abbreviation for?
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tickbattler - I said in my post that I think my allergies are related to lyme but actually I think it very well could be parasites. We've treated both. I've had high eosinophils for awhile which is said to be caused by allergies or parasites. EOS goes up, we treat parasites, it goes down. When we stop treating parasites, EOS goes back up. During this time, allergies have gone wayyyy down.
Just guessing but looks like there may be a connection.
You might look at parasites as a cause.
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We were treated by D.N. herself for many weeks. We moved to Long Beach to do it. It was totally useless. In fact, the activating of meridians as is done during NAET gave me the brain fog of all brain fogs that lasted a good two years. In other words, it distributed all the allergy/dysregulation-causing toxins and natural substances into the brain rather than helping to eliminate them. This also increased my Lyme problems immensely.
After that ordeal, I found Dr. K. to help me turn things around. It still took me a few years. His allergy elimination also was not effective and it took Allergy Immun to finally correct acquired and inherited dysregulations aka allergies. There are hundreds if not thousands of chemicals that affect us, some of them we are not aware of, nevertheless taking us into a chronic state.
We were still allergic at the DNA electromagnetic level until starting Allergie Immun. That put a stop to all, including allergies to chemicals and toxic metals. Now, finally we are releasing them en masse. This was not possible until the allergie/dysregulations were eliminated via Allergie Immun. This is proven not only by what we know and feel, but by lab testing.
I was very fond of DN, a great person, but NAET was ineffective and definitely did not last for us.
Take care.
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People respond differently to NAET, as Terry + Gigi have mentioned.
My experience is different, as I was trained in 1998 to perform it and had an office that specialized in it in Central Ohio.
IME children responded more quickly + more positively than the average adult. I feel that was due to the fact that their bodies had less garbage (chemicals from food, the environment etc., emotional stress) in them tnan adults.
Ultimately the world runs on energy and that is what NAET is based on. You may want to try 5 to 10 treatments to see how they do.
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When I got rid of the parasites, I got rid of my allergies which I had for years including severe asthma.
The small intestines harbors a lot of parasites where they set up shop. 75% of our immune system is located in the small intestines. I had NAET done years ago to no avail.
The ONLY thing that made a difference for me was getting rid of the parasites which 90% of the population has. Bottom line was NAET was a waste of money for me.
Gael
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Did anybody here have a practitioner AK test them to prioritize what should be treated first ?
This makes great sense to me as the tester can ask about parasites, bacteria, viruses, congested organs and anything else.
I also trained for the 2 main "offshoots" of NAET, those two being BioSet and Jaffe-Mellor.
Since AK (muscle testing) is both a hands on + intellectual skill practitioners application can vary greatly. Naturopathic docs generally do not have the hands on skills that chiros do as chiros are heavily trained in touching bodies + interpreting that touch.
So with some here that did not do well with NAET that may have been due to the practitioner more than the technique. (does not apply to Gigi as Dr. N treated her.)
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Applied Kinesiology misses one basic ingredient and that is why it often does not work. AK does not "open Regulation" before testing. When regulation is blocked, body cannot reveal the truth. Meridians are blocked and things are stuck. How could it possibly give the correct information.
George Goodheart missed that. And that is the basic ingredient that is a must in ART (Autonomic Response Testing).
If I test my husband while his system is blocked, I get a negative when testing for toxic metals while he is actually drowning in the stuff. I have to also open and clear my own regulation before I can test him; otherwise I get a false answer.
That is the reason Applied Kinesiology (AK) has gotten a sour reputation with many people who have tried it. And that is the reason why Autonomic Response Testing (ART) works so well.
To do muscle testing properly, one has to distinguish between open and blocked regulation. If it is blocked as it is in many chronically ill, it has to be opened first before testing can proceed. That is where the skill of a practitionner comes in. You have to find what blocks the person. Usually it is the very toxin that is the major contributor to the patient feeling unwell at the time of testing. By bringing the suspected toxin into the energy field (hand) of the person, the regulation can be opened temporarily to then be able to test for the remedy that will help to detoxify the body.
But this was a subject of NAET. Since Massman brought up the subject of muscle testing , I felt it necessary to chime in.
Take care.
P.S. I would not ever while having a very toxic body do NAET and I also would not do Acupuncture. Both tend to distribute the toxins more throughout the system while they are trying to accomplish something else. That has been my experience with both methods. I never had even an inkling of brain fog until I got extensive NAET treatment from the inventor herself. The intentions were good -- the results cost me two years of my life.
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Gigi - I have incorporated checking regulation into my testing for quite a while.
The public perception of muscle testing is very simple.
Why did you continue with NAET if you were not getting results after a few weeks ?
If my patients did not get results within a few weeks we changed what we were doing or referred them to another practitioner.
Dr. Vern Pierce had pounded into me that what counted were Results Results Results !
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Thank you all for your comments and experiences. I read about this technique in The Natural Medicine Guide to Autism that I was reading to try to figure out what to do about some of my son's psych issues. This same book has a chapter about Dr. K as well.
Gigi - I would love to ask you a few questions if you don't mind but I see that you don't have a pm box. Is there a way to contact you?
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Good point GIGI. I think many people who use muscle testing do check for what GIGI calls "open regulation". My herbalist does and she taught me to as well. We also test for safety for all substances and procedures. That said, the muscle testing that was done by both NAET practioners did not check either so tickbattler, you would want to ask the NAET practioner to check for both before proceeding. I wised up with the second practioner that I saw and things went better.
For any allergy/dysregulation problems (acquired and inherited) check out www.allergie-immun.de (click on English version) and read part or all of the thread that is moving here called Allergie Immun Germany (1900 posts)on. That is by far my primary choice for literally any problem, except acute (not chronic) infection. Especially, young people have great results (because their toxic load is still somewhat lower).
Take care.
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tick battler
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Thanks Gigi. I will send you a note shortly.
Thanks also for the links.
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Hi Gigi, I just started NAET trying to treat for bad chemical sensitivites I've had for over 10 years. I'm doing this to try to tolerate some lyme treatment. I'm sure in addition to lyme/bab/ms I have mercury issues too. I wondering how the naet would redistribute the mercury. I'm concerned because my ears have become very sensitive to high frequencies(having trouble evening being on the computer), and I have a high pitched insect sound in my ears since i started the naet,and wonder if it's all related.
thanks diana
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It sounds like AI is the answer instead of NAET
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Gigi do you think that the constant electrosmog we are all exposed to could interfere with NAET ?
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I found NAET helpful, with foods and some other issues, but not permanent.
One bonus with NAET is they can test for "allergies" to different infections, including borrelia and the lyme coinfections. I considered it along with the other lyme tests as part of the lyme diagnostic procedure.
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AI is part of the solution. If toxins had been clogged up inside the body, it may not have the means to remove them. Organs that have become dysfunctional may require help to clear toxins and those toxins are usually surrounded by organisms which like the situation just as it is. So diet and selective supplementation herbs and the like may be required.
I'm going to guess that due to a diseased state including narrowed blood vessels, reduced oxygenation inside the lungs, poor liver and kidney performance. Mineral imbalances and PH shifts in parts of the body. Many of these are structural issues that need to be resolved along with AI.
AI instructs the body on what it needs to do, but the body may need help as well. So if AI doesn't initially work well then you might need to find out why, either you don't have all the instructions or blockages (structural issues).
I'm glad I never pursued NAET. I was way to toxic to handle it. Although I've never used AI it does look promising. But I do wonder if it doesn't have the same issues of NAET. If there is a structural issue such as a collapsed blood vessel, how do you resolve that with AI alone? Or better yet in concert?
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I know this is supposed to clear up allergies, but can it cause them? I started this to treat chemical sensitivities but now seem to have slight allergic reaction to some things(didn't before)after being treated for formaldehyde. What exactly is this treatment doing? I was told it would reduce my nervous system's response to chemicals.
Thanks, diana
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