Is there anyone out there that can say heavy metal chelating was a turning point for them?? I am about to start the andy cutler protocol as I have no fillings now.
I was 4 times the "normal" mercury and twice the lead so I am assuming its worth it.
Any thoughts?
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I felt significantly better on chelating days than on non-chelating days. Eventually I felt the same on both days, and then I was finished chelating.
Also, previously, before my more recent bite 7 years ago, I went into remission after having my fillings removed and chelating. I also changed my diet, started exercising, and got some sunshine.
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I had mostly lead, so I used Detoxamin, ALA and NAC. Detoxamin is an EDTA suppository, and I felt better the three days after the nights I used it than the other four days of the week.
I took zeolite and zeolite HP for binding. I am allergic to chlorella.
I use cilantro now, periodically even though the major chelating is done, I still have metals show up in ART testing.
There are better ways to chelate mercury though.
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Hi, I had about 10 amalgams removed then followed the Cutler Protocol. Hard to tell if it did anything, but I'm 10x better but that could be from lyme and friends. DMSA chelation 4 days at a time, worked up to 25 mg every 3.5 hours.
I don't chelate anymore because it's just too damn hard to keep it going every 3.5 hours. Miss a dose at 4 am because you slept through, and you have to wait to restart again. Crappy.
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Daughter using oral DMSA for very high mercury, plus high lead. No amalgams. She feels much worse during the 3 days on, and needs the 11 days off or more to recuperate.
Too soon to tell for sure, she has a few more weeks to go. But we are hopeful that it might finally be a turning point for her.
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Richard, I'm sorry your daughter feels worse during chelation. Maybe lower the dose of DMSA? and be sure and add in minerals on the off days for drinking water.
Detoxamin as Six used is better for lead. This is what brought my lead levels way down.
I did AC protocol as well and found it minimized redistribution of metals by starting at a very low dose DMSA, like 12.5mg You would have to divide the 25mg capsule to do this.
If you feel rotton on any of the chelators like cilantro or ALA, DMSA or EDTA maybe the dose is too high?? Just my experience this these things.
I still don't take ALA or cilantro because it makes me feel really bad.
hope this helps
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If it turns out that your body has forgotten how to deal with toxic metals, detoxing them is not successful, and you will keep wondering why you can't get better or get worse.
Get tested by Allergie Immun (read some of the thread running here) before you attempt toxic metal detox and avoid moving the metals from one body compartment to the other or not removing any at all.
It took me years to figure this out. You cannot get rid of the stuff permanently if you are allergic to these major metals. As it has turned out by the people who have done the AI testing, a majority of people with Lyme or any chronic problem have this dysfunction that can be easily remedied with the AI drops.
Usually all these same people also have the same problem with major foods (wheat, soy, corn) and fungal infections. And that invites the parasites on top of it all.
If I could turn the clock back, I would do the AI test before embarking on any toxic metal detox, which usually fails or merely displaces and shifts the toxins. If the body is allergic and cannot regulate at the DNA level, the immune system will not respond.
If you are mineral deficient, which is the case with most people who retain toxic metals and chemicals, detoxing is impossible. Do a Doctor's Data Hair test to find out. Malabsorption because of wheat/leaky gut is the culprit.
Blood tests and urine tests are inconclusive because toxic metals do not live in the blood and they are rarely found there or only when they are in transit. Toxic metals and chemicals are blocking hormone receptors/production and hiding in the joints and connective tissue and the brain.
Dumping toxic metal and chemicals is only possible when the wheat( causing leaky gut) problem is solved through AI and some of the many dysregulations in the DNA have been corrected which AI also takes care of.
Take care.
P.S. If your system cannot regulate, i.e. you are allergic to these substances, good foods as well as bad, you will instead of detoxing, accumulate more of the everyday exposure that we cannot avoid even if we try. You get it in foods, water, medicines, air, chemtrails, etc. etc. and you will not get out of this unpleasant merry-go-round - until you teach your body again to regulate. 15 drops of "informed" AI water are extremely effective. Energy medicine at its best.
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I can vouch for that. I was not able to detox period until many rounds of AI. Now, chelators are not necessary (or advised by my ART doc). The metals are coming out on their own - and fast.
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Does Andy cutler not recommend 100mg DMSA?? 25 sounds low.
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Nano, Many rounds of allergy immune?? At 450 euro a pop ....ouch!
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NMN, check the website. The total treatment until they can no longer find any dysregulations is covered under the one time expense of now 450 Euro in the US (was 390 E until recently). It covers the total therapy from beginning to end, and there is no comparable as far as results that I have found. Most Americans have to stay on it longer than the Europeans do. Lifestyle, water quality, food, mineral deficiency; they have no chlorine and fluoride in their water, EMF exposure ?????? Who knows. I don't think they raised their price in Germany or rest of Europe for that reason.
Take care.
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