500mg (standardized to at least 20% oleuropein) two or three times a day. Be careful though because it's also a potent antiviral, antifungal, and antibacterial, that will cause herxing just like an antibiotic.
I'm not sure if it helps these infections or my other illness, but regardless I experience a ton of cognitive improvement
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It CAN cause an immediate herx (does for me), but just like an antibiotic it usually happens the "worst" after a few days of being on it.
No side effects unless you are on blood thinners, then I'd be careful. Some studies say it may lower blood pressure, but for me it actually IMPROVES my low blood pressure (perhaps by treating the cause?) so I'm not sure about that one.
And no, there aren't any interactions with antibiotics. They can be taken at the same time, even, as olive leaf extract should be taken with food for the best absorption. It actually helped my antibiotics work BETTER, either because they both kill pathogens or because it's is a very powerful antioxidant (one of the STRONGEST), I'm not sure.
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Try some SAM-E plus N-acetyl carnitine for a month and some Methylcobalamin shots every morning.
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My LLMD put me on a vitamin called Cerofolin. It's a prescription. He called it a vitamin. Supposed to help with memory & fog. I'm doing quite well.
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Acetyl L Carnitine is given to people with dementia. Sam-E is also supposed to be good and help with depression. Huperzine is supposed to help. Some people swear coconut oil is good for memory.
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- Liver support is the best support for the brain. Avoiding as many toxins as we can and guarding against those we can't.
A whole foods, organic diet rich in colors and textures (fiber).
A gluten-free and dairy-free diet also helps my brain. -
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- In response to some questions above about OLE, from my file notes: ---------------------------------
-------------- An Olive Leaf formula (that contains Terminalia chebula):
My ND (naturopathic doctor) recommended MYROLEA B. Most naturopathic doctors and acupuncturists know about the Seven Forest formulas. As this is a combination formula, there are ingredients included to help the body with "clearing heat" and metabolizing toxins.
Myrolea-B (White Tiger) is a simple formulation of highly concentrated extracts from four Chinese herbs and one Western herb.
The Chinese herbs include forsythia and lonicera, two of the key ingredients of Ilex 15 (and the main antiviral ingredients of Yin Qiao Jie Du Pian), thus boosting the dosage of these essential ingredients.
Myrolea-B also contains the antiviral agents scute (huangqin) and terminalia (hezi). The Western herb in this formulation is olive leaf, which is one of the primary anti-viral herbs derived from the European tradition.
SHUANGHUANGLIAN: Potent Anti-Infection Combination of Lonicera, Forsythia, and Scute - by Subhuti Dharmananda, Ph.D., Director, Institute for Traditional Medicine - 2003
Shuanghuanglian (SHL for short) is a modern formula that was devised in the 1960s to treat a variety of infections. It is comprised of the alcohol-water extracts of three herbs: lonicera (shuanghua, often called jinyinhua), scute (huangqin), and forsythia (lianqiao). . . .
. . . One of the early preparations of the SHL was a tablet made of equal proportions of the extracts of each herb. This was used to treat leptospirosis, a disorder caused by a spirochete bacteria, related to the organism that causes Lyme disease.
Leptospirosis causes initial symptoms of fever and chills, headache, and muscle ache (especially in the shoulders); these are consistent with "flu-like" symptoms described for the onset of many acute infections.
In a 1971 report, the formula was described as being made in 500 mg tablets derived from 3.7 grams of the crude herbs, and being administered in doses of 10-15 tablets (thus, equivalent to the extract of 37-55 grams of herbs) every 6 hours (1), a very high dosage.
. . . Recently, Shuanghuanglian has been applied successfully to treatment of Coxsackie B3,
. . . The general indications for SHL . . . are "relieving the exterior syndrome, clearing away heat and toxic material," and its indications are "treatment of fever, cough, and sore throat that arise from wind-heat syndrome."
It is said to have "a good action in treating upper respiratory tract infection, tonsillitis, laryngopharyngitis, pneumonia, acute enteritis, viral dysentery, etc., when caused by virus or bacterial infection."
- full article at link above.
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Detail from two of the most reputable sources of OLE:
Die-off effects -- Olive leaf use causes the death of microbes. The liver, kidneys, intestines and skin are therefore tested to their limits, to deal with, and remove them. This causes Herxheimers Reaction, which can have a variety of symptoms, but basically makes one feel ill or under the weather due to a treatment's effect upon the body.
Thus, "die-off," referred to in medicine as the "HERXHEIMER reaction," occurs when the olive leaf components kills large numbers of harmful germs rather quickly. Then, the patient's membranes absorb toxic products from these dead microorganisms. . . .
See details at link for:
* Safety Precautions and * Known Drug Interactions
SEAGATE Olive Leaf Extract - also see their menu for all their OLE products, including nasal spray, personal spray, etc.
Excerpt:
Side Effects:
Olive leaves have been used safely for thousands of years. The only known side-effect is the possibility of a HERXHEIMER reaction, an allergic response caused by the rapid die-off of fungi that release toxins which may temporarily cause a brief allergic reaction, lasting for several days.
. . . Are there any contraindications with Olive Leaf Extract?
No contraindications with other drugs have been observed.
** However, Olive Leaf Extract should not be taken with antibiotics produced from yeast / fungus or along with additional amino acids other than those received in your everyday foods. They might cross out each other's effectiveness. . . .
- Full article at link above. -
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WildCondor said, "Try some SAM-E plus N-acetyl carnitine for a month and some Methylcobalamin shots every morning."
I take both but not together. I've taken 400mg of Sam-E first thing every morning for about 3 years and love it for mild depression.
I started taking 500mg of N-Acetyl Carnitine w/ supplements at lunch about a month ago and I have noticed some improvement but not much. Is there something I can do to improve results?
WildCondor, do you suggest taking the carnitine w/ the Sam-E in the morning or doesn't it matter? And can you suggest how much carnitine daily?
Also, another poster pmed me a few weeks ago that Buhner's Resveratrol is what took care of her brain fog. I'm starting that this week.
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