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cameron
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I am supposed to start LEVAQUIN for bartonella. The more i read the more scary the drug seems. I would appreciate hearing of anyone's experience or if anyone knew of good alternatives to treat bartonella.. Are all floroquinolones so risky or are their safer ways to treat bart?
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I would recommend giving it the old college try just because it can be so effective. A fair percentage do get sides, I was one, but some lucky ones take it without issue. If you're lucky, it could work big time.

It's just worth a shot.

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I had REALLY good results from Levaquin. It was my last resort before IV because of my cognitive symptoms. Ended up I didn't need IV.

There are some risks, and you just have to determine whether the possible benefit is worth, same as with any drug. For me, I thought it worth the risk.

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I've so far had a similar experience as Sixgoofy, with Cipro. I think it changed the course of my treatment drastically- I had previously treated with Rifampin and several other things, but everything really turned around (*from a very bad place) when I added relatively low-dose cipro. I recently tried to use Factive, which was much more unpleasant. All these drugs are related, and maybe some people who have trouble with one can handle a different dosage or another drug in the same class.

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I recommend giving it a try...be sure to beef up on the Magnesium and vitamin C.

I tried it for 2 weeks and thought it was starting to work, but my achilles started to feel a bit tight / odd so I switched to Rifampin.

Most people shouldn't have tendon issues.

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to mariaa, what was your low dose amount.i also had good results with cipro.it irritates instestines alot but my spine pain and rib cage pain was responding to it.
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This is day 14 on levaquin for me. So far so good. no side effects. Good results only a day or two after taking it. Still maintaining the good results. But I still have symptoms including lyme and bart. Doing a lot of vitamin C and meg, and other herbs. I am also taking omnicef along with levaquin.

doage of levaquin: 500mg once per day

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This day 17 on levaquin for me. My headache started to come back and is constently there, not as severe as before I started levaquin. I wonder why it came back after 2 weeks. Once I first started levaquin, it was gone in 24 hours...

I started herbs BLT as well cumanda. I wonder if I am herxing on these herbs, maybe that is why...

I will continue with levaquin for at least two more weeks, or more. so far, no side effects from levaquin...

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It knocked my bart down quickly but gave me tendonitis. I wish I had quit it sooner because I was floxed on it - couldn't tolerate any chemicals for months and months. So I had to try to keep things at bay with massive amounts of herbs, which failed.

I wound up right back where I started and it has been a much more difficult journey trying to get back. Levaquin can cause tendon rupture up to a year after taking it. It is thought to decrease circulation to the tendons.

Take massive amounts of magnesium and vitamin C. Also take DL Methionine as it is used to repair damage to the tendons etc.

And quit at the first sign of any pain, even if it seems to be in the muscles and not related to joints. I had muscle pain and then it hit like a knife stabbing me in the shoulder. Very sudden.

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I wish I could have used the levaquin, but no insurance and a $500 prescrption was not happening. So I had to be switched to biaxin/bactrim.

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I took levaquin for 5 weeks in a row and noticed definite deterioration in muscle strength but no tendonitis. Did an alternate regimen for 2-3 wks and everything went back to normal muscle wise. So tried taking the levaquin again and got to day 8-9 and both arms, shoulders started hurting and multiple tendons were swollen and tender. Had to stop levaquin at that point and drop my weights on dumbells down to 5 pounds from the 25# I was doing pre-levaquin. I mentioned all this to a LLMD from Maryland at the ILADS conference and he said it was most likely a herx rather than the dreaded flox effect. I have been taking lots of C, Mag, and
very small amounts of advil and it is getting better steadily but I think I may move on to Rifampin/clarithro next time for Bart treatment.

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On day 20 of Levaquin, severe headache came back. Levaquin has lost its effectiveness. Has anyone seen Levquin failing as a bart treatment?

Or I just don't have bart? But why am I responding so well to Levaquin for the first week and I also responded to rifampin + bactrim DS intially?

Could what I have been something else?

Head problems are my only major problems: headache all over back and top of head, ear ache and ringing... Nothing seems to work for my ear problems...

I feel until I find that med that can't help with my ear problem, I am not going to get to symptom free...

Any thoughts?

I stopped levaquin on day 20 since it was helping me anymore...

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some typos here. re-posting...

On day 20 of Levaquin, severe headache came back. Levaquin has lost its effectiveness. Has anyone seen Levquin failing as a bart treatment?

Or I just don't have bart? But why am I responding so well to Levaquin for the first week and I also responded to rifampin + bactrim DS intially?

Could what I have be something else?

Head problems are my only major problems: headache all over back and top of head, ear ache and ringing... Nothing seems to work for my ear problems...

I feel until I find that med that can help with my ear problem, I am not going to get to symptom free...

Any thoughts?

I stopped levaquin on day 20 since it was helping me anymore...

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I stopped levaquin since it wasn't helping me anymore...
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I ate it for about six months. I did feel a difference in my achilles tendons. During that time I worked out quite hard at the gym and did some mild yoga-based stretching.

I was not, I don't think, cleared of Bart during that time (if I even have Bart). Bottoms of feet still ache.

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Rainbow, one of my concerns is that many of us
may have high titres to Chlamydia pneumonia and
Mycoplasma pneumonia. The symptoms of chronic Cpn seem very much like those of Lyme and coinfections. The Chlamydia people have there own website Cpnhelp.org. Their regimen overlaps with a combination of Borrelia and Bartonella medications. They use zithro, doxy,flagyl, rifampin, levaquin etc. over very long treatment periods. I have never had a blood titre for Chlamydia but I think I am going to so I can set my sights and expectations for the treatments I am taking accordingly. For me, levaquin did not solve all my Bartonella type symptoms but overall my energy level is steadily improving before and after levaquin on my overall treatment
program. Currently clarith bid,doxy bid, bactrim bid, artemisinin tid 3wks on 1 wk off, metronidazole bid on the off Art weeks.

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I have develpoed bursitis in the shoulders, is getting better from mag/vitc/enzymes & glucosamine. It is a trade off to kill some of the nasty buggers!
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