seekhelp
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My chiropractor never heard of Babesia when I told him I had it last week. However, he did some research and called a supplement manufacturer.
He called me today and said a product called Biotics ADP should eradicate this parasite. It's apprently very concentrated oregano extract. He said for two weeks to take 5 capsules 3x day and then bump down to 3 capsules 3x day for another 4 weeks. Each bottle of 120 capsules is $40. I saw it online for $29, but i don't know what S/H costs.
He also recommended some probiotic and a digestive enzyme from Biotics called Intenzyme or something.
Any truth to this supplement taking care of Babesia WA-1 this easy? He believes all parasites can be treated similar. He is not lyme-literate either IMO.
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TF
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I believe if this worked, my lyme doc would know about it and would be using it. He is very into alternative medicine.
When all the recommendations are for products of a certain company (Biotics) rather than for products of various companies, it makes me start wondering if the guy is a distributor for the company. Know what I mean?
Also, since your chiro never heard of babesia, he obviously doesn't have any cases of people being cured of it through use of this product. So, it sounds like the company he works for told him it would work for babs and he is just relaying the message to you. That is a lot different than him having seen it work for people himself.
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seekhelp
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I agree TF. That's what I was worried about. One of the reasons I often get worried about seeing chiros.
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massman
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Now wait ! MDs for many years were in bed with drug companies, getting tons of free expensive benefits.
But a chiro selling some supplements outright is REALLY EVIL
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NO, a chiro recommending w/o knowing what Babesia is kind of seems odd. Nothing against my chiro. I like him a lot and he's good for adjustments. They just sometimes get outside their knowledge level and are apt to sell their supplements from companies they work with more instead of educating themselves about the big picture.
I have yet to see them 'search the net' or check out all options to cure a problem. That takes TIME and is not reimbursed, right?
I could give two craps about what these MDs do. Two wrongs don't make a right.
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massman
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Gaaaaads !
My kids and I listened to AND believed that Steve Earle song that says:
"Whatever you do Be a Seeker."
I really can't figure out why many health pros choose to stay ignorant. To understand some things it takes a bit of effort. Lyme takes lots of effort.Why did they really become docs ?
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For the $100,000+ paycheck maybe Massman?
Most health professionals just have no damn clue about TBIs. If you haven't experienced a health crisis, you just live a sheltered life. It's truly sad and frightening any doctor in this day and age can say, "what's Lyme?"
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massman
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$100,000 ? Per week ? Month ?
Doing retail ?
Oh but I am sure that health food store clerk has sooooooo much experience with doing differential diagnosis .
Or even better those national health food chains with the minimum wage clerks ? They probably rock ! ------------------------------------------------- WINK DISCLAIMER: Means I may be somewhat but not totally serious with this post. Smiles are infectious = oooops I mean contagious
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Oh and as you know, most docs are in lock step. They do not dare have hearts and / or brains.
Lets ask them why they are choosing to be ignorant. I do that. Nice and tastefully of course.
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I have nothing against trying something herbal prior to treating with drugs. However, this product is for intestinal parasites & yeast not blood parasites - which is what babesia is.
Babesia is rather complex. If the chiro didn't "really" study it - I may be somewhat cautious of a recommendation like this. I'd have to look into it further about oregano oil. It's strong stuff. It may have some benefits but I haven't heard of it being used for babesia.
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Taking Oregano has been talked about for years for treating bacterial infections naturally.
I did take Oil of Oregano cap's for one month a few years ago, and did have a horrible herx on it. I was not in treatment at the time, and had read about it so I took it.
I thought I had this horrible flu that wasn't typical and finally realized it had been 4 weeks since I had started taking it. Was interesting.
Wouldn't have believed it if it hadn't happen to me! No I don't take it now, as I'm on Zith/biaxin/plaq.
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Here is Pub Med siting for oregano effectiveness against parasites. "Inhibition of enteric parasites by emulsified oil of oregano in vivo. Phytother Res. 2000;14:213-214." Possbily would work for babesia as well. Abstract Oil of Mediterranean oregano Oreganum vulgare was orally administered to 14 adult patients whose stools tested positive for enteric parasites, Blastocystis hominis, Entamoeba hartmanni and Endolimax nana. After 6 weeks of supplementation with 600 mg emulsified oil of oregano daily, there was complete disappearance of Entamoeba hartmanni (four cases), Endolimax nana (one case), and Blastocystis hominis in eight cases. Also, Blastocystis hominis scores declined in three additional cases. Gastrointestinal symptoms improved in seven of the 11 patients who had tested positive for Blastocystis hominis.
Copyright 2000 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd. PMID: 10815019 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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