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Yep. This is how I got my original diagnosis. You can see the spirochetes and the parasites too.
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Thanks that link helped!!!! Wow jlp thats great!
She didnt see any LD or anything like that in mine, just the clumping rb chylous, echinocytes fungal forms red crystals L-Forms Monocyte Mycoplasma Neurophil Neutrophil Hyper Segmentation Parasitized RBC and last but not least Spicules.
Huh I dont know what all that means but she did say I need to start a digestive enzeyme because my body isnt getting rid of waste properly.
I am not drinking enough water, my colon and liver are putting toxins into my blood and my White blood cells are fighting but then she found a clump that were exhausted. She said your immune system is exhausted. That scared me a bit.
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To those that think it's not possible to see Lyme with live microscopy:
Not true. I monitored my progress that way. They couldn't be found after about 3 months.
It is illegal for a medical practicioner to own a dark field microscope unless they have a CLIA certified lab. And yes, it's enforced.
I don't think it's Borrelia burgdorferi that we are seeing, but maybe another strain, some from of relapsing fever, or possibly some other spirochete altogether. I don't think the patients with this phenomenon generally have a positive ELISA, and are much less likely to have a positive western blot from LabCorp or Quest than someone with B31. In other words, these patients most likely aren't being studied.
I don't see how this medical phenomenon could stay "medically unknown", so it's probably only a matter of time before a medical journal will be released about it. But then again, as far as I know, it took mainstream close to 120 years to recognize that L-forms are real (and these can be easily observed under a microscope).
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quote:Originally posted by Geet3721: Kday you seem to know alot about this what is an L form? :-) I obviously know nothing.
Anything else I have jump out at you? I appreciate it thanks.
L-forms are often spirochetes (such as Lyme).
The heat of the lamp, along with destroying RBCs with a paper clip that are harboring L-forms can make them come out and start swimming like a classic spirochete. Of course, you won't find many using this technique.
L-forms is just one of the many forms Lyme and some other bacteria use in attempt to evade the immune system. You aren't going to see any leukocytes that try to gobble up L-forms since they aren't recognized by your immune system.
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My spirochete load dropped significantly after 3 months of treatment (cumanda, enzymes, supplements -- no abx). We do have to remember that 'chetes live in tissue more than blood so just cuz they can't be found in darkfield doesn't mean we don't have them. But I still think it's an indicator the load is lessening.
My llmd says his ART testing always confirms darkfield diagnoses of spirochetes.
I think L-forms are cells without cell walls. So the immune system can't find them cuz they don't look like cells.
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Geet, do a search on this site for dark field and you will find info going back several years.
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I found this site on how to turn a regular light microscope into a darkfield scope. Not as good as the ones made for that purpose, I suppose, but still might work. I was surprised at how easy it looks. Just need a circle of electrical tape! I work in a lab and have access to a light microscope. I haven't tried this yet, but plan to soon.
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