momlyme
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I have been taking chlorella 3 times a day for 2 weeks with absolutely no effects.
I took 2 EDTA yesterday and it made my head fog go from almost tolerable to out of control. Not only could I not think straight... but I could not walk straight. I was literally bouncing off the hall walls.
Now my neck is stiff. Can't move it at all. It's actually stuck a bit crooked to the right.
Massive headache... like someone is stabbing my head in the top, left, back. One spot.
I might go back to bed. I am very tired. I think I just stirred up the mercury and made things worse. I doubled my dose of chlorella...
Anyone tried the Purification Program written about in "Clear Body Clear Mind" (high oil, high vitamins & minerals, niacin flush, exercise and sauna)
I am having amalgams removed January 9 & 13 by a biological dentist. I know I have a problem & I don't have a doctor that I trust to help with this.
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I don't think you are supposed to chelate metals until AFTER you've had your amalgams out. If you do it before, you'd just be pulling the mercury out of your teeth into your body, which is definitely not going to help.
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momlyme
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OK, so I made a mistake. A potentially BIG mistake.
Is there anything I can do to pull the toxins out of my body? The stiff neck is getting worse... nothing seems to help. My brain is a mess. My head won't stop pounding...
Can I sit in my sauna? Or will that do more harm?
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Heather, Have you used the sauna yet? I would start out in the sauna for a few minutes at a time....detox real slow...
Lots of water with lemon but you already know that...there is a detox thread on here....lots of good info..if I find it I will send it to you..I'm sure someone else will chime in..
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My husband had a bad reaction to a chelating supplement that he was taking between amalgam removals--it contained mobilizers as well as binders, but it clearly did too much mobilizing. He also did the sauna, as well as epsom salt baths. It's possible that they pulled some metals out, but neither improved how he was feeling at all.
I think you're on the right track with the chlorella. My understanding (which may not be correct!) is that you need binders to mop up the metals that have been mobilized. In addition to chlorella, other recommendations I've read on the board have been activated charcoal and apple pectin. I'm sure there are others too.
After his most recent amalgam removal appointment, my husband stayed away from any mobilizers and just stuck to binders. He did MUCH better--none of the sick, headachy, weak, brain-fogged feelings of the prior appointments.
So, just a thought, based on his experiences.
Hoping whatever you try brings you relief soon, Viva
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GiGI's got it all in her AI thread. Can't remove metals without this therapy supposedly.
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No more mobilizers for me... I learned my lesson. Uggh.
I am going to try that sauna. First time Deb!
I am so glad I got that from you. I'll let you know how it goes. My husband is setting it up right now.
I did a lot of research on this... and somehow got the idea that EDTA was going to help... I must have missed the part about it leaching more mercury out of the teeth.
My head has been tilting more and more toward the right all day... and it hurts bad!
Tingly fingers too. Not good.
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OK -- my husband is a chiropractor and he works with people helping them chelate metals. I just mentioned this to him and he said EDTA pulls lead more than mercury. So you probably didn't do too much damage. Based on your symptoms, I'd still detox though. And definitely no DMSA or DMPS until after amalgam removal as those do pull mercury.
If the EDTA bothered you that much, I wonder if you have high lead levels. Don't take my word for it. I'm just thinking out loud here. That might be something to test for in the future.
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Don't try to detox heavy metals on your own unless you have educated yourself for a long time and learned from people who know how.
Do not go into the sauna until you have no amalgams left in the teeth. And not a long time until you have detoxed the metals in a different, non-sauna, way. Sauna only for the last third, if at all. Stimulating circulation moves the metals quite easily also in the wrong direction --into the brain, rather than out.
You are doing yourself no favor by trying this on your own. The consequences can be heavy and not easy to undo.
Heavy Metal Detox is not a do-it-yourself job. And experts are limited.
If you have been ill for a long time, do the Allergie Immun test before you try anything else. Chances are 99% that you have become allergic to the most toxic metals (mercury, lead, copper, nickel) and if that is the case, the immune system cannot recognize the toxins and will mot step in to act. You will not detox any metals to speak of until you clear the allergies. Allergie Immun is the o n l y system that I have found that does it very easily and also clears you of all the major food, fungi, chemical allergies accumulated during the time when yyour immune system went asleep - abx does a good job in that arena.
Chlorella does not mobilize any metals intracellularly where many of the toxic deposits are. It works only extracellularly. It is a binding agent mainly, with benefits because of super nutrients, etc. Read my posts on the subject.
If I had to do all over again. I would do Allergie Immun. Treat Parasites who are holding on to the toxic metals in their coats. And then when they break up and move out, you have a chance at the metals. Not before and not after or only in a very limited way. At that time, when the metals are on the move, you also have a chance to treat the fungi, and then the bacterial and viral infections.
Parasites, Fungi, Bacteria, Virus - but prepare with AI to have a chance at the metals by correcting the dysregulations/allergies.
Take care.
Look up my post on the Babuschka Principle and ordwer of treatment from about 10 days ago. I can't find it - maybe someone else can.
Take care.
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I did the program as outlined in Clear Body, Clear Mind many years ago, before I got Lyme.
It worked well for me at the time.
Under your current conditions, I'd not do it until things are way more under control!!
Best,
Cass A
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momlyme
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Thank you all for your help, suggestions and warnings.
Yesterday, I did heating pads & ice-- alternating... ibuprophin, pain killer, massive amounts of chlorella... and all day my head kept tilting more and more right. So, none of these helped and my neck seemed to be getting worse.
I did finally get in the fir sauna and stayed in for about 1/2 hour. I felt 80% better. It was amazing (Thank you Deb!!!)
After a shower, I sat with a heating pad and I felt shooting pains from the neck to mid/left side of back (maybe kidney). Got in the sauna again this morning... not 100%, but maybe 90%.
I will continue to chlorella... and short saunas. I do think the sauna is helping.
jlp38 - The lead makes sense. I got sick 5 years ago while working on an old (1890's) building. I was stripping painted wallpaper and stripping painted window mouldings - although I was wearing a mask, I got sick... and my lead level was around 13. My doc said no action was necessary and just stop working with the lead painted surfaces and I would be fine... my body would get rid of it on its own.
GiGi - that makes sense. I read the Babuschka Principle post and that made sense too. Thanks for your response.
I have started reading the AI thread yesterday... I will continue to learn... and as I am not a patient woman... I will probably continue to make mistakes.
Cass - I am 3/4 through the book... nothing about danger in a sauna because of amalgams--- yet.
Thanks again everyone... from here, I plan to continue the chlorella 3 times a day until amalgam removal January 7.
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