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well . I've been on the biaxin and planequil for about a month. First my stomach was bloated and stuff. so i took Olive Leaf Extract, herxed. and my stomach felt better
**** I had a 150mg single dose of diflucan that I had gotten at a walk in clinic a few months ago. never took it before. i took it yesterday morning around 5. Its not worse. but its not 100 percent better.
should the itchiness go away right away? or does it take a few days. is 150 mg once enough?
should I buy monistat instead. I noticed lately ive been having urgency to pee alot too. but no burning when I pee. I thought only UTI's cause urgency to pee. does yeast cause it too?
Id appreciate the help
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- Diflucan, 150 mg once is NOT enough.
I assume you are talking probiotics 2 -3 times a day, separate from Rx and from supplements, on an empty stomach.
Still, for many that is not enough to prevent systemic candida while on antibiotics (abx)
By chance, have you been taken, or did you buy any OLIVE LEAF EXTRACT? That herbal supplement is anti-fungal and was of great help to me.
Can you call your LLMD's office today and request a prescription for more Diflucan? Not all insurance companies will allow that more than once a week, though, so be aware of that possibility.
NIZORAL, too. is an Rx.
NYSTATIN is another possibility, bot oral powder and mixed as a douche or formed into a suppository with coconut oil in the fridge (takes a couple hours to form before you could insert it). Best to wear a light pad as that may get messy.
For suppositories, I suggest TERAZOL 3 suppositories AND gel to apply to the outer vulva area. Terazol 3, daily, though. Again, the script may just cover 3 for a week or for a month. Until under control, I found daily use worked best. But that's before I learned about other things.
Boric Acid suppositories are antifungal. For me, just the boric acid capsule burned tremendously. I suggest that in formula rather than alone.
I'm sure you are avoid simple sugars and citrus fruits but be sure to get vitamin C supplements to help strengthen your body to find Candida.
OLIVE LEAF EXTRACT worked better for me than anything else and it's much easier on the body, helpful in many other ways. SEAGATE is excellent brand and they also have a vaginal spray (I've not used that but they have an excellent reputation). SEAGATE's link is in the next post.
In the meantime, a good vitamin store or natural foods market should carry a good brand and they will also have some vaginal suppositories.
Be careful, too, about your shower gels or bubble bath soaps. Avoid all additives, perfumes, scents, dyes. Avalon Organics makes a nice shower gel that can be used for some bubbles in the tub, too. Even with your MCS, you should be able to enjoy the lemon or the mint as they are both from real lemon and real mint, not fake.
If you are in an intimate relationship, condoms should be used until candida is under control. As well, your partner should be taking anti-candida measures, too, as it can be passed back and forth sexually. Of course, the chemicals on the condoms can also pose a problem with tender and inflamed tissue. It may be best to stick to cuddles until this is better, really.
This will get better.
good luck. -
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-------------- An Olive Leaf formula (that contains Terminalia chebula):
My ND (naturopathic doctor) recommended MYROLEA B. Most naturopathic doctors and acupuncturists know about the Seven Forest formulas. As this is a combination formula, there are ingredients included to help the body with "clearing heat" and metabolizing toxins.
Myrolea-B (White Tiger) is a simple formulation of highly concentrated extracts from four Chinese herbs and one Western herb.
The Chinese herbs include forsythia and lonicera, two of the key ingredients of Ilex 15 (and the main antiviral ingredients of Yin Qiao Jie Du Pian), thus boosting the dosage of these essential ingredients.
Myrolea-B also contains the antiviral agents scute (huangqin) and terminalia (hezi). The Western herb in this formulation is olive leaf, which is one of the primary anti-viral herbs derived from the European tradition.
SHUANGHUANGLIAN: Potent Anti-Infection Combination of Lonicera, Forsythia, and Scute - by Subhuti Dharmananda, Ph.D., Director, Institute for Traditional Medicine - 2003
Shuanghuanglian (SHL for short) is a modern formula that was devised in the 1960s to treat a variety of infections. It is comprised of the alcohol-water extracts of three herbs: lonicera (shuanghua, often called jinyinhua), scute (huangqin), and forsythia (lianqiao). . . .
. . . One of the early preparations of the SHL was a tablet made of equal proportions of the extracts of each herb. This was used to treat leptospirosis, a disorder caused by a spirochete bacteria, related to the organism that causes Lyme disease.
Leptospirosis causes initial symptoms of fever and chills, headache, and muscle ache (especially in the shoulders); these are consistent with "flu-like" symptoms described for the onset of many acute infections.
In a 1971 report, the formula was described as being made in 500 mg tablets derived from 3.7 grams of the crude herbs, and being administered in doses of 10-15 tablets (thus, equivalent to the extract of 37-55 grams of herbs) every 6 hours (1), a very high dosage.
. . . Recently, Shuanghuanglian has been applied successfully to treatment of Coxsackie B3,
. . . The general indications for SHL . . . are "relieving the exterior syndrome, clearing away heat and toxic material," and its indications are "treatment of fever, cough, and sore throat that arise from wind-heat syndrome."
It is said to have "a good action in treating upper respiratory tract infection, tonsillitis, laryngopharyngitis, pneumonia, acute enteritis, viral dysentery, etc., when caused by virus or bacterial infection."
- full article at link above.
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Detail from two of the most reputable sources of OLE:
Die-off effects -- Olive leaf use causes the death of microbes. The liver, kidneys, intestines and skin are therefore tested to their limits, to deal with, and remove them. This causes Herxheimers Reaction, which can have a variety of symptoms, but basically makes one feel ill or under the weather due to a treatment's effect upon the body.
Thus, "die-off," referred to in medicine as the "HERXHEIMER reaction," occurs when the olive leaf components kills large numbers of harmful germs rather quickly. Then, the patient's membranes absorb toxic products from these dead microorganisms. . . .
See details at link for:
� Safety Precautions and � Known Drug Interactions
SEAGATE Olive Leaf Extract - also see their menu for all their OLE products, including nasal spray, personal spray, etc.
Excerpt:
Side Effects:
Olive leaves have been used safely for thousands of years. The only known side-effect is the possibility of a HERXHEIMER reaction, an allergic response caused by the rapid die-off of fungi that release toxins which may temporarily cause a brief allergic reaction, lasting for several days.
. . . Are there any contraindications with Olive Leaf Extract?
No contraindications with other drugs have been observed.
�� However, Olive Leaf Extract should not be taken with antibiotics produced from yeast / fungus or along with additional amino acids other than those received in your everyday foods. They might cross out each other's effectiveness. . . .
[poster's note: as nearly all antibiotics are now synthesized, this is not such a concern but good to have awareness just in case.]
- Full article at link above.
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PROBIOTICS still need to be taken. Take several hours away from OLE (and from all supplements and also from Rx). OLE will negate probiotics if taken too closely together. -
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I called my LLMD's office and she told me to buy some monistat if its just a little itchy outside my vagina. she said I could become resistent to the diflucan so she said if its mild for me to just buy some monistat. she wouldnt write me the script
is monistat good? i hear the 7 day one is the best. i dont have itching on the inside just on the outside. weird. no discharge either.
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I actually am taking olive leaf extract. i find it helps with my stomach yeast very well
altho I dont know if its able to help vaginal yeast too. does it? I also take capsules from Thorne Research Brand. SF722. its 10-Undecenoic acid. an antifungal
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- Monistat may work but it does not work for all kinds of candida. So, if it does not, find a cream that works for a variety of strains. Terazol does but that is Rx.
Good that you are on the OLE (2 - 3 x a day, I hope). Yes, OLE is systemic but, if you have irritation, of course a topical ointment or suppository will further help.
You may also just have pH out of balance. A balancing douche formula may help - or a homeopathic suppository.
Probiotic capsules are good to use as suppository, too.
I have to stop now. others can address other questions. take care. -
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lymegal23- In addition to what you are already doing, I would recommend that you get some plain, unsweetened yogurt and apply it several times a day.
You can use a turkey baster to insert some on the inside just in case.
For me, this soothes the intense itching. You can use a pad or washcloth to keep it from getting everywhere.
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