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i take that amount..and to tell you the truth I notice nothing. But I hope it's doing something.
I use the powder and drink it in some water.
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GiGi
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Look up PROPEL - www.tahomaclinic.com and research the individual ingredients of this combination amino acid capsule. I am just starting to search and cannot tell yet, but CFS seems to be helped with it as is Parkinsonism. See Jonathan Wright's December 2010 newsletter. I don't have it yet, or I would post. The combi has a wide application.
Take care.
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I take 1000mg of acetyl l carnitine (ALAR) with 600 mg alpha lipoic acid. It is supposed to be great for memory too and I need all the help I can get!
I can't say I see a significant difference in myself but I also give it to two of my horses and it makes a huge difference in them.
One of them has a metabolic condition causing muscle cramping because he cannot utilize glucose. He is MUCH better on this - it has literally saved his life. ALCAR helps him utilize glucose better. It makes his muscles stronger and gives him more stamina.
I also give it to another horse that was sluggish with a short stride. He has completely changed his way of moving. He used to be dangerous to ride because he would fall so much but not any more. He has much more energy and his stride has improved so much I have been told he could do second level dressage. For a roping pony that is amazing.
I just started giving it to a fat old mare and she is losing her belly. ALCAR helps convert fat to muscle.
For horses you give one gram (1000mg) per 100 lbs of body weight.
Seeing these miracles in all the horses I give it too, I sure will continue to take it myself. I should probably up my dose.
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Thanks so much for all of the comments and help...
From what I've been reading, people with MS who have nerve pain and muscle pain take acetyl-l-carnitine (at least 1,000 mg) WITH the alpha lipoic acid (at least 200 mg). I don't recall Dr. B recommending that lyme patients take these together even though I know he's mentioned both supplements. Some of the MS patients said the dosage matters and taking BOTH matters for energy and stabbing muscle pains....
Word of caution, I think anyone thinking of taking these supps, should look into the interactions:
Possible Interactions for ALA: If you are currently being treated with any of the following medications, you should not use alpha-lipoic acid without first talking to your health care provider.
Insulin and drugs that lower blood sugar -- Apha-lipoic acid can combine with these drugs to further reduce blood sugar levels, resulting in hypoglycemia (low blood sugar).
Tell your doctor before taking alpha-lipoic acid and monitor your blood sugar levels closely; your doctor may need to adjust your medication doses.
Thyroid-regulating medications, Levothyroxine -- Apha-lipoic acid may lower levels of thyroid hormone. Blood hormone levels and thyroid function tests should be monitored closely in people taking thyroid hormones who are also taking alpha-lipoic acid.
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nefferdun
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Alpha Lipoic acid is a powerful antioxidant - much better than vitamin E and C. It also helps with neuropathy in diabetes. It has been used for this purpose in Europe for many years. Both supplements are recommended for diabetes. It can reduce blood sugar but that is good as it means diabetics can take less medication.
Readers Digest had an article several years ago titled something about the "fountain of youth". It named these two supplements as the ones to take to stay young and healthy.
I can say that I do not have pain with my lyme and co-infections (knock on wood). I believe my supplements do help with this. I also take DL Methionine, another amino acid which helps with healing.
Most of the time if there is any interaction you can just take the supplements at a different time of day.
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