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I'd say Olive Leaf Extract. I know Keebler says the same thing and Keebler knows ALOT. I bought it after reading her recommendations on it
buy the tincture it seems to work best
Another cool thing about the Olive Leaf Tincture is you can use it with a toothbrush to scrub your tongue everyday to keep yeast away. and you can also swish it around your mouth like a mouthwash to help prevent it as well.
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- Oh, my! LymeGal, thanks for the giggle. I don't know a lot but of the very little I do know, for me OLE has been the best and easiest to tolerate (it does not burn like garlic or oregano oil can).
I think the tincture is best for oral rinsing and the upper GI tract but capsules are best for stomach and systemic use. By using both, less alcohol is used.
-------------- An Olive Leaf formula (that contains Terminalia chebula):
My ND (naturopathic doctor) recommended MYROLEA B. Most naturopathic doctors and acupuncturists know about the Seven Forest formulas. As this is a combination formula, there are ingredients included to help the body with "clearing heat" and metabolizing toxins.
Myrolea-B (White Tiger) is a simple formulation of highly concentrated extracts from four Chinese herbs and one Western herb.
The Chinese herbs include forsythia and lonicera, two of the key ingredients of Ilex 15 (and the main antiviral ingredients of Yin Qiao Jie Du Pian), thus boosting the dosage of these essential ingredients.
Myrolea-B also contains the antiviral agents scute (huangqin) and terminalia (hezi). The Western herb in this formulation is olive leaf, which is one of the primary anti-viral herbs derived from the European tradition.
SHUANGHUANGLIAN: Potent Anti-Infection Combination of Lonicera, Forsythia, and Scute - by Subhuti Dharmananda, Ph.D., Director, Institute for Traditional Medicine - 2003
Shuanghuanglian (SHL for short) is a modern formula that was devised in the 1960s to treat a variety of infections. It is comprised of the alcohol-water extracts of three herbs: lonicera (shuanghua, often called jinyinhua), scute (huangqin), and forsythia (lianqiao). . . .
. . . One of the early preparations of the SHL was a tablet made of equal proportions of the extracts of each herb. This was used to treat leptospirosis, a disorder caused by a spirochete bacteria, related to the organism that causes Lyme disease.
Leptospirosis causes initial symptoms of fever and chills, headache, and muscle ache (especially in the shoulders); these are consistent with "flu-like" symptoms described for the onset of many acute infections.
In a 1971 report, the formula was described as being made in 500 mg tablets derived from 3.7 grams of the crude herbs, and being administered in doses of 10-15 tablets (thus, equivalent to the extract of 37-55 grams of herbs) every 6 hours (1), a very high dosage.
. . . Recently, Shuanghuanglian has been applied successfully to treatment of Coxsackie B3,
. . . The general indications for SHL . . . are "relieving the exterior syndrome, clearing away heat and toxic material," and its indications are "treatment of fever, cough, and sore throat that arise from wind-heat syndrome."
It is said to have "a good action in treating upper respiratory tract infection, tonsillitis, laryngopharyngitis, pneumonia, acute enteritis, viral dysentery, etc., when caused by virus or bacterial infection."
- full article at link above.
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Detail from two of the most reputable sources of OLE:
Die-off effects -- Olive leaf use causes the death of microbes. The liver, kidneys, intestines and skin are therefore tested to their limits, to deal with, and remove them. This causes Herxheimers Reaction, which can have a variety of symptoms, but basically makes one feel ill or under the weather due to a treatment's effect upon the body.
Thus, "die-off," referred to in medicine as the "HERXHEIMER reaction," occurs when the olive leaf components kills large numbers of harmful germs rather quickly. Then, the patient's membranes absorb toxic products from these dead microorganisms. . . .
See details at link for:
� Safety Precautions and � Known Drug Interactions
SEAGATE Olive Leaf Extract - also see their menu for all their OLE products, including nasal spray, personal spray, etc.
Excerpt:
Side Effects:
Olive leaves have been used safely for thousands of years. The only known side-effect is the possibility of a HERXHEIMER reaction, an allergic response caused by the rapid die-off of fungi that release toxins which may temporarily cause a brief allergic reaction, lasting for several days.
. . . Are there any contraindications with Olive Leaf Extract?
No contraindications with other drugs have been observed.
�� However, Olive Leaf Extract should not be taken with antibiotics produced from yeast / fungus or along with additional amino acids other than those received in your everyday foods. They might cross out each other's effectiveness. . . .
[poster's note: as nearly all antibiotics are now synthesized, this is not such a concern but good to have awareness just in case.]
- Full article at link above.
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PROBIOTICS still need to be taken. Take several hours away from OLE (and from all supplements and also from Rx). OLE will negate probiotics if taken too closely together. -
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- Generally, separate by several hours (or equal "clock-face time"):
Rx
Supplements
Probiotics -
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Yeast Cleanse by Solaray is a good combo of antifungal herbs. You can find it online at places like iherb and vitacost.
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- Along the lines of Gael's suggestion for coconut oil, MONOLAURIN is good.
Coconut oil never did ANYTHING for my yeast. Monolaurin either... which is found in coconut oil.
Try Candex and lactoferrin.
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- Using Google as my spell-check to learn for myself, once and for all, if it is "antifungal" or "anti-fungal" (seems to depend on the author), I just found this site - with many excellent links within it: -----------------------
Written and Maintained by Lewis Mehl-Madrona, M.D., Ph.D.
From that: -----------
(Excerpted from: The Candida Yeast-Autism Connection, written by Stephen M. Edelson, Ph.D. at the Center for the Study of Autism, Salem, Oregon)
There are 30 or 40 strains of candida, and some are very resistant to treatment.
Nystatin, quite possibly the safe prescription drug on the market, will work on the weakest candida strains. Ketoconosal (Nizerol) is a stronger drug, but much more likely to have adverse side effects. Diet is at least as important as drugs in treating candida.
There are also non-prescription substances that have anti-candida effects, such as acidophilus, caprylic acid, garlic oil, colloidal silver, and other readily available substances, some of which have been used to treat candida for hundreds of years. -
The spacing of my post seemed to interrupt the conversation.
Picking back up again, Gael refer to
Coconut oil:
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glm1111
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But it did for me. I guess we are all different when it comes to what works. I just had aveoplasty (reconstructive bone surgery) and it was very painful
I didn't want to take the vicodan that the Oral surgeon gave me, so I took a total of 3 tsps of coconut oil and within about 30 minutes it took my pain away.
Coconut oil also got rid of my systemic yeast when I was on abx. You can alternate all of the above suggestions and see what works for you,
Gael
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