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tvalentijn
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I have started with the GB-4000 rife machine. So far I have only been doing once a week, only channel 466 (primary Lyme channel). It's 5 groups of 5 minutes each. Do you guys / girls that use the GB-4000 do 467 and 468 as well, in one session? Or do you change it up?

Thanks!

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I would like to know too. I have started the GB4000 myself just a few weeks ago and am using auto channel 467 or 466. I also will run a few individual frequencies that are lyme specific like 432 or 612 5 minutes each.

Not sure how to work in co infections but may start today.

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I run individual frequencies and don't even bother with multiples when it comes to this disease.

For example, I ran all the Bartonella DNA frequencies as multiple of 8 with zero response. When I ran them individually I had intense long bone pains and other bartonella associated things, instantly.

This tells me that there is a lot of power and other delivery lost in multiples.

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I also use individual frequencies for Lyme, most of the time.

The common ones I use are 612 Hz, 2016 Hz for Lyme.

832 Hz and a sweep from 835 to 836 for Bart.

I also use some of Char Boehm's DNA based frequencies for Lyme and Bart.

I like to know what each frequency is doing specifically, as it saves treatment time in the long run.

Dan

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tvalentijn ----

The GB4000 channel that you mention, i have used it, but i didn't think it did much.

I use 612 frequency, or a sweep on 612-614.

Another thing i use is a self-programmed autochannel of HARMONICS of 612. Dan told us how to multiply the frequency, such as 612, by 2, and keep multiplying by 2 each time. Then i programmed each of those 8 frequencies, such as 1224, 2448, etc, into an autochannel on the GB4000, and run them all as a group.

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I was told by my LLMD his patients use the GB 4000.

The machine can scan loads of pre programed frequencies and store thousands.

It also comes with a 10 watt amplifier. The 4000 alone puts out 3 watts.

So what I have learned from you all is to use only a few frequencies at most and see how you feel.

Am I making a large investment for the 4000 and amp. or is 3 watts fine?

Lastly is this new technology that gives multiple frequency scans better in covering Lyme and co infections?

The makers state the cost of the microprocessor which saves the user a lot of wasted time.

Thanks for your advice before I spend $2500.00

Joe

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To Joe:

I think I have the same LLMD (Dr. P in CT?).

Based on what he told me about the experience of his other patients with the GB-4000, I bought the GB-4000 plus the amp. You really need the amp. So far I have only used the primary Lyme channel (number 466). Channels make your life easy as follows: you can run individual frequencies but that's hard to do, one by one. You can put a bunch of frequencies together in a group. And then put group together in a channel. The GB-4000 comes with pre-programmed channels for a lot of things. There are three channels for Lyme, number 466, 467 and 468. Channel 466 has 5 groups, it runs 5 minutes per group.

I have noticed a significant improvement using the GB-4000, so yeah - I am glad I spent the $2,500.


My question to the community is: do you run 466 and 467 and 468 each session? Or do you alternate the channels?

To the users of frequencies 432 and 612: are these frequencies not included in these 466 / 467 / 468 auto channels?

To owners of the MOPA: do you see a significant different in results using the MOPA versus the 10 Watt amplifier?


Thanks!

Tim

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We've been using the wrong frequencies for all these years.

In case anyone is interested we over at Rife Forum have one of the original Rife Machines in possession and the math behind the frequencies found with it has been decoded. Now we can make some progress! You can find a Rife History document containing the technical and historical information here... Rife History Document by Jeff Garff

For those of you with a GB4000 you might try RF mode at 3.3mhz with an audio frequency of 6,660 hertz, both at the same time. Setting a slow sweep of the 6,660 hertz up and down 200 hertz or so would be a good idea too in case that frequency is not exact.

I want to emphasize that neither the 3.3mhz frequency or the 6,660hz one will do anyhing by themselves. But when they are combined they produce a string of sidebands and one of these lines up with the Rife MOR and does the job.

I built replica of the old machine using vacuum tubes a few weeks ago and have used it with the above frequency setup. It is from the listing that was found with the machine and it was for Lyme's cousin Syphilis. It appears to have worked as my Lyme symptoms I have lived with for years have simply vanished. I am going on a cruise for a week tomorrow, and I will let you know if I still feel good when I get back.)

So, there is hope. I do not know if a GB4000 with or without the amp would do the same thing with the same frequency setup, but there is a good possibility that it might. There is no harm in trying.

If any of you have the MOPA you might talk to Jeff about it. We understand the math behind the frequencies now, so he can probably tell you how to set up something similar to the above but at a lower carrier frequency.

I'll let you guys know if the Lyme STAYS gone.

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Regarding James.

Just to let you know that James played a huge role in cracking the mystery in Rife's work, and he also has had Lyme for quite some time.

I would pay close attention to any suggestion he makes. I will be trying this combination in the future.

The one problem is the carrier frequency is fixed on the GB-4000. With the MOPA it is variable. Do you have a work around for this?

Thanks for this potentially important update James.

Dan

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Dan,

You don't want to use the fixed RF carrier of 2.4mhz. What you want to do is run the frequency 3,300,000hz and also the frequency 6,660hz (as a square wave) at the same time.

I am pretty sure the GB4000 can do this as that is how Jeff got the spectrum analysis print out as seen on pages 74 to 81 on the document I linked above.

As to exactly how to set up the GB4000 to do this, I am not familiar enough with it to give specific instructions at this time. Hopefully someone else can. I do know that the GB4000 can run up to 8 frequencies simultaneously.

I'll check back here when I get back from my trip in a week.

Regards,
James

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Hey Dan,

Would you do me a favor please? Could you post a question on Rife Forum asking for instructions to set a GB4000 to do this, and then pass the information on to any here that want it?

Ask how to set it for 3,3000,000 hertz with a convergence sweep using a square wave that covers 6,660 hertz and a little above and below it.

Thanks!
James

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I have it in the works right now. I think by Monday I should have an answer.

I think you are correct in that the GB is capable of doing this functionally, but the standard software that is loaded on it, does not accommodate what you have done. To do it precisely, as you have, may require some sort of software update.

I am anxious to test this out. I am sure others are also.

Have fun on the cruise.

Dan

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tvalentijn---- i personally found those GB4000 channels 466 467 468 ineffective, as far as i could tell, with very little evidence.
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I ran Lyme frequencies using "The James Protocol".

Being the MOPA cannot run 3,300,000 Hz as it is higher than it is designed to run, I ran the lower harmonic of 1,650,000 Hz as a carrier wave. The plasma tube should have created the higher harmonic.

I calibrated it with my frequency meter for the first run and then ran a convergence sweep from 6560 to 6760 Hz in audio mode from the GB-4000.

The immediate result during treatment was a feeling like she was being poked by pins, in a few areas, but especially in the ankles.

This happened when the GB read 6574 Hz, 6584 Hz, 6608 Hz, 6614 Hz, 6637 Hz and 6701 Hz. This is to the nearest Hertz, and I really have no idea why it was producing these effects at various frequencies, but the sensation was very pronounced.

I then readjusted the carrier frequency, as it tends to drift as the machine warms up. It is an analog tube machine and that is the way they are.

The carrier had drifted up during the first treatment to around 1,700,000 Hz range.

I ran it a second time, with a straight sweep. She had lesser sensations, and only twice did the pin poking feeling come about that time.

Both runs produced a feeling that here joints were swelling although they may not have been doing that in reality.

She has been taking Cumanda twice a day, to keep Bart from reproducing. This would also have the tendency of keeping Lyme out of Spirochete form. I am hoping the pin prick sensation was actual destruction of cysts, but that is just undue optimism on my part.

I do not doubt that it hit Lyme, but we will need more runs, and more time to know how much it killed, if any. James will likely know before myself, since the Cumanda is going to complicate things for us.

I will also copy this into the general Rife thread.

Anyone with the MOPA or a machine that can run this protocol should give it a try.

Dan

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Hi Tim
I do see DR. P.
and I am going to buy a GB44000 today with the Amp.

I have used Rife through my Holistic Dr. but she only does the F scan and Rife once a month.

She also uses high frequencies because she was taught low ones have the possibilities of damaging good cell. Go figure?

I would be interested in talking more in regards to treatment.

If interested post me personally .
Joe

Yoy can reach me at

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Hi guys,

after taking a 3-week break from Rife, I did all 3 channels 466, 467 and 468. This was 60 minutes in total. I had a significant herx about 3 - 4 hours after. So at least something is going on.

I'll try to do that sweep from 612-614 and 432 next time. Would you do 5 minutes as well? So the whole session will take only 2 times 5 minutes? Or do I program it for 612 - 614 plus 432 in one 5 minute session? Sorry, but I am one of those people that need very specific instructions...

Strange that 612 - 614 and 432 are not included in these pre-programmed channels by the way.

Ciao,

Tim

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612 Hz is in the pre-programmed channel of 466, but at the lower harmonic of 306 Hz.

432 Hz is included in the Lyme Primary autochannel right after 306 Hz.

When ever I do a sweep, I do it for a longer time. You are only going to hit the correct frequency for a short time, so you want it to be enough to do something. How long depends on how much Herx you can take. It takes a little trial and error to find out.

If I was doing the sweep, I would use 39,168 Hz to 39,296 Hz. These are higher harmonics of the same frequencies. They usually work better that way.

I would also use 27,648 Hz instead of 432 Hz. Another higher harmonic of the same frequency.

I think as a general rule, the higher harmonics are going to have a better effect.

Dan

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Hi Dan, thanks for clearing that up. I'll read the manual and see if I can figure out how to program a sweep from 39,168 Hz to 39,296 Hz and a single 27,648 Hz. Do you think 10 minutes and 5 minutes respectively would be OK?
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I think that those would be a good starting times.

I would also only do one or the other, at one time.

It is useful to see which helps the most. Personally, I never saw much response to the 432 Hz frequency or its higher harmonic. I think because it may do the same thing as 612 Hz and the higher harmonics of that same frequency.

There could be some other reason such as a difference in strains of Lyme, so I would try both.

We have to assume that everyone does not have the same strains until you can personally tell which is having the most effect. We do not want to make the common mistake in thinking we all are the same, or that exactly the same treatment, will produce exactly the same results in everyone.

The treatment that works for you, no matter what that may be, is the one that is best for you.

Dan

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When you guys talk about sweeps...

Is that different from running the Auto-channel Lyme?

Also - the distributor who is showing me the ropes highly recommends the auto-channel. one of the benefts to the GB 4000 is hitting all the frequencies.

Although I understand those of you who say to go one frx at a time.

But at that rate (rifing once per week) it could take freakin months on Lyme ALONE to figure anything out.

Imo (and I don't know much lol) it seems more ideal to run the auto channels and then after a month or so of good herxing on Lyme channels - add the Bart and or babs auto channels in and go from there.

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Yes sweeps are different then auto channel. When you sweep you enter the freq. that want to start the sweep then you enter the freq. that you want the sweep to stop.

As Dan mentioned above sweeping 612-614 often it's the frequencies between those two numbers that can hit the target.

There is nothing wrong with using auto channels at first if you are getting good herxing but not every freq. is killing pathogens in everyone. It is best eventually to find out which freq you are really herxing on and running it for longer periods individually.

As Dan has mentioned before this thread contains some of the best proven lyme and coinfection frequencies you can find.

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You can sweep auto channels also. If you push the green channel sweep button on the GB-4000 after it starts, it will vary the frequencies in the auto channel by 5 Hz above and below the frequency.

Dan

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