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MDW005
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steve, thanks for sharing this link. It has been a great help.
I take oregano, garlic, tumeric, ginger, omega-3 and olive leaf. I think it's time to re-evaluate my supplements.
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I�m always rethinking and changing my supplements. I have problems like nausea, stomach pain etc.
Good luck!
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The person on the site above means well, is well researched in many respects, and in other respects doesn't know his/her stuff. I have some formal training in herbalism:
The "warming" herbs do not thin the blood. Instead, they dilate the capillaries which brings circulation to the surface (ginger, mustard powder, cayenne and other "hot" spices).
Ginger, garlic, ginkgo biloba, and ginseng thin the blood. The other herbs mentioned in the link above do not, to the best of my knowledge.
Omega 3s from fish oil thin the blood.
Bear in mind that these blood thinners are much more mild than ordinary aspirin. Remember, these are balanced foods and not isolated, concentrated chemicals like mainstream medical blood thinners are, that is why they are more mild. Other herbal constituents also have balancing action, which is lacking in the isolated chemical. The problem does not come with ordinary use of these herbs, but instead with mixing the herbs with blood-thinning medications (including aspirin) or when a person already has excess bruising/bleeding problems to begin with. If a person does tend toward easy bruising or excess bleeding, then to avoid those herbs/foods is definitely indicated. To routinely supplement the diet with the herbs above and also take mainstream medical blood thinning medication is also contra-indicated, except under a licensed physician's supervision.
The herbal materia medica on the Healthy.net site is written by David Hoffmann, one of the world-top authorities along with Christopher Hobbs. Both know their studies in and out down to impressive details, know body chemistry better than many pharmacists I have talked to, and have 35 years of practicing experience to back their world-wide formulating and academic knowledge. These are the sources I would recommend as trustworthy. Both are also very full disclosure, their ethic is impeccable. See what Christopher Hobbs has to say about the herb wild yam to get an idea of his full disclosure ethic (go to his website above and click on the online herbal prescriber).
The above information has not been evaluated by the FDA and does not diagnose, cure or prevent any disease. This information is for your educational purposes only, and does not substitute for a doctor's personalized advice.
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chiquita incognita
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Salycin-rich herbs include (this is only a partial list):
Meadowsweet White willow bark
Yes salicyns have some blood-thinning properties. Observe the cautions as above.
Further info:
Potter's Herbal Cyclopedia by Elizabeth Williamson (ethnopharmacist with multiple degrees to her name, cites studies, herbal chemistry and lay-friendly use information)
See websites above
Nutrient, Drug and Herb Interactions by Treasure/McKee/Stargrove (for physicians and health practitioners only, very thick medical terminology but absolutely excellent book! By an MD, an ND naturopathic doctor, and world-ranking herbalist Jonathan Treasure).
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Vitamin E also thins the blood, as does sassafrass...
I think most mint family herbs have salycin, right? Thinking of my reactions to those herbs when the essential oil of said herbs is used on my skin and the resultant ammonia fumes...I suspect this is some strange die-off or metabolic interaction that is peculiar to me, but I could be very wrong...I'm allergic to aspirin, and may be intolerant to salycin-containing substances as well...
Just thinking out loud...
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Chiquita... would these blood thinner herbs create bleeding?
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