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Wolfed Out
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What effect does this supplement have on testosterone levels in MEN?

Also, any information pertaining to the benefits for men or in both sexes would be beneficial.

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Hmmm I dunno. I take it (26 yr old female). I had low hormones across the board for several years. I hadnt had my period for 3 years and had been on hormone replacement therapy without any changes. I went on Vitex for 3 months and now have my period and my hormones are up. TOTALLY reccomend it for women....I dont know what it does for men.
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I've been on this as well for several months and found that it does a good job of balancing estrogen/progesterone levels. I was estrogen dominant.

I've actually never heard of it used for men, but if it works on female hormones I don't see why it wouldn't work on male hormones as well.

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Carol in PA
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Look up Vitex at iHerb.com and read the reviews.

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Hello Friend
This is one of my very favorite herbs.
It *Does!* balance both male and female hormones. By working with the pituitary and adrenal glands, both of which influence the release of sex hormones (and the mimicry thereof when it comes to the adrenals), it balances sex hormones in males *and* females, each alike. It is only used primarily as a women's herb because women tend to have more need in this area with monthly cycles, fertility issues et al. However it balances male, female and even androgenous hormones (which is why it can help to clear acne, according to master herbalist David Hoffman on the Healthy.net site).

This herb is very powerful. For women, over time it can clear up endometriosis, no small task whatsoever. David Hoffmann writes that this takes usually a full year, but it can be done. For men, yes it can be helpful in balancing male sex hormones.

You might also look into nettles, which men respond to very well for prostate issues, alongside saw palmetto. Pair those up with vitex and you will have a dynamite combination going on!

The ginsengs can sometimes aid the production of testosterone and other hormones, by working via the adrenal glands.

YOu can read more here: www.healthy.net or go to www.christopherhobbs.com

Christopher Hobbs and David Hoffmann are both world-top herbalists who can jot molecular chains on a board, rattle off pharmacology and double blind studies at the drop of a hat...I studied with Christopher so I know that first-hand.

Any women here who are interested, I suggest you read what Christopher Hobbs has to say about wild yam. The answer may surprise you . His full disclosure about it will also be indicative of his absolute integrity in his work. He is not there to "sell" you, he is there to help human health and he will never hide a thing, is always very full disclosure. Check it out, it's important information for women to know.

HEADSUP: I would never recommend doubling any hormone-altering medications with herbs that work on the hormonal level. It is generally not a good idea to duplicate body functions with herbs/meds/supplements, just as a general rule, to avoid the possibility of going "over the top".

The above information has not been evaluated by the FDA and does not substitute for a physician's advice. This information does not diagnose, cure or prevent any disease. Drugs and herbs may interact, talk with your doctor.

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PS Wolfed Out, the plant does not *stimulate* hormones per se. Instead, by working with the pituitary and the adrenals each alike , it *balances* hormones in general. However I have seen the plant tend to raise progesterone levels in women somewhat, even though it is supposed to be balancing. I don't know how this would affect testosterone levels in men, but once again the herb's pharmacological action supports its balancing capacities. History itself has also born this out, and yes there are clinical double blind studies which have been done. You can read about them here: www.pubmed.gov but it requires medical terminology. Boo.

Anytime you are looking to balance hormones, I always recommend doing liver support work alongside. The liver screens excess hormones and blood sugar from the blood. As part of the act of balancing hormones in herbal therapy, I always recommend to people to use liver supportive herbs. Detox herbs yes, but also liver-building herbs like milk thistle and schizandra. I really like GAIA Herbs's product called Milk Thistle Yellow Dock, it is very well formulated. Paradise HErbs sells milk thistle by itself in powdered extract form, this has the advantage of being alchohol and glycerine-free without any fillers or binders, and it is a very high quality product. Obtain herbs at discount here: www.iherb.com

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Chiquita,

Thanks so much for that detailed response.

Being that you have a lot of experience with herbs, I have a really unique situation that causes much trouble. May I e-mail you with a short summary? It's a bit off topic with Lyme and I don't want to post on the forum.

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Wolf, you could also try tribulus terrestris and/or Eurycoma longifolia. The later supposedly has anti-bacterial and anti-malarial properties as well.

As usual, source is key.

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Hi Wolfed Out
I apologize for taking this long to respond, hadn't checked back in a while so in other words, please know I did not mean to ignore you!

I will enable PM's this moment and then feel free to email me. I'd be happy to "talk", with the understanding that all that we say must be checked out with and supervised by your doctor. You'd be surprised that some herbs, nutrients and drugs can interact (some of them favorably FYI but others not) and it's very important to tell your doctor about everything you are taking, nutrient supplements and herbs included. That said, I'd be very happy to talk. Best wishes and I will look forward to it!

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PS I also need to state this, that I can't and don't diagnose. That is up to your doctor to do. I would need a diagnosis from your doctor to be able to make any recommendations, again with the understanding that the doctor approves the recommendations and oversees the progress. Just needed to say that.

Thank you all and best wishes.

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