richedie
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Do you thikn you can get better if you don;t follow Dr. Bs low carb diet?
I exercise a lot so I find I need the energy so I eat my oatmeal, my brown rice, my buckwheat, even some sprouted grain bread and cereal. This seems to fly in the face of Dr. B's guidelines. He also says limit or avoid potatoes, but the Body Ecology diet which specificaly addresses candida, recommends red skin potatoes.
Dr. B states: VEGETABLES Green vegetables and salads are O.K. Avoid or limit starchy vegetables (potato, rice, beans, etc.) and avoid pasta. STARCHES None!! If it is made from flour- any kind of flour- it is not allowed. (No breads, cereals, cake, etc.)
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I have my doubts. You have to give your body every chance to heal itself.
Go cold turkey for a month and see how you feel.
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richedie
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You mean follow the guidelines to a T?
It is confusing because my doctor wants me to follow a very low fat diet in light of this new parasite found at Fry labs?
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Yes-- Starches do not add any vitamin, mineral, or nutritional ingredient is necessary to humans. It is the only food group you can remove from your diet without any sort of supplementation (that should tell us something).
This diet is totally do-able, even if youre working out a lot. You dont have to follow it, but it certainly wouldnt hurt.
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richedie
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The longest living and healthiest cultures in the world have lived on a starch based diet. That should tell you something.
Well it is tough for me because I am a semi vegetarian. I eat little meat, dairy or eggs. What about potatoes? Brown Rice? Oats? All very, very good for us, very healthy.
PLus now my doctor and Dr. F from Fry labs wants me to follow a very low fat diet to help break down the biofilms. It is tough to do that on the Dr. B plan. He said not to follow the Dr. B guidelines on diet because it will result in too much fat to feed the biofilms and these protozoans they found.
quote:Originally posted by WhitneyS: Yes-- Starches do not add any vitamin, mineral, or nutritional ingredient is necessary to humans. It is the only food group you can remove from your diet without any sort of supplementation (that should tell us something).
This diet is totally do-able, even if youre working out a lot. You dont have to follow it, but it certainly wouldnt hurt.
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I will disagree with most here about low carb diets. We need the fuel that the carbs produce. Sounds like you are eating healthy carbs. When I went on a low carb diet,
I got very weak and decided to just eat what my body required. I also took a lot of coconut oil and would add things like cinnamon to my oatmeal which is anti candida.
I think given your body weight and size that you need these carbs. Listen to your body and your intuition. I don't believe there is a one size fits all.
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I am almost all better now. In the beginning, for a couple months, I really did limit carbs A LOT, but not ALL of them as he suggests. With all the bug killing, the yeast really grew and it did help with that too I think.
Over time, I have added more carbs, and continue to get better. But, I still do try to avoid them during breakfast.
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quote:Originally posted by MichaelTampa: I am almost all better now. In the beginning, for a couple months, I really did limit carbs A LOT, but not ALL of them as he suggests. With all the bug killing, the yeast really grew and it did help with that too I think.
Over time, I have added more carbs, and continue to get better. But, I still do try to avoid them during breakfast.
What carbs did or do you avoid? I mean if you read the Anti Candida book, "The Body Ecology Diet" book...they say red skin potatoes and things like buckwheat are totally fine.
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Healthy carbs are vegetables, not starches.
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I think healthy carbs are things like intact grains too....oats, buckwheat, red potatoes....
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Those aren't too bad in moderation. I eat more sweet potatoes instead.
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richedie
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I eat oats every day....red potatoes almost every day, etc. I need calories. I am not much of a meat eater so I have to substitute.
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I mean--its really personal preference. But if youre going to say things like "The longest living and healthiest cultures in the world have lived on a starch based diet"-- it would be great if you could actually provide examples.
Things like potatoes, legumes and uncooked grains can be poisonous and must be cooked for them to be eatable. So I know the animals aren't eating those! lol.
Scientifically speaking we do not need carbs to live, or even feel good. Protein and fat are also converted in the blood stream into glucose, which can fully satisfy your body's energy.
I am a huge vegetable eater, all of my carbs come from vegggies (true veggies-- not corn or potatoes).
I'm not trying to tell you what to do, its totally up to you. But if we are going to bring science into it, we should be factual.
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richedie
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LOng living cultures that have little disease that we have that live on a plant/starch based diet? Okinawans', Hunzans' Vilcabambans', Abkhasias' and there are some others I forget right now. There was also a documented study that I need to find.
Poisonous? That is actually hogwash. Don;t believe it. My nutritionist is raw vegan and she is the pinnacle of health. She competes in fitness competitions and is entering her first bodybuilding competition. In great health and eats lots o raw legumes. You can't compare us to animals in general.
Potatoes are fine.
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I am a hypocrite since I have not yey made it to low carb land, but from the research I have seen there is no evidence that higher carbs equate with greater fuel availability overall. Yes simple carbs givve you the quick boost, but those spikes result in less availability overall. It could be that certain types of atheletes use quickly available carbs for performance, but for overall energy needs it seems the evidence indicates low carb diets are more efficient.
It is likely true that certain sub-groups of people may do better at varying degrees of starch intake, and from what i have seen there are not very good diagnostics in determing those sub-groups outside of anecdotal reports
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Richiedie, You seem to have already decided what you think is best for you, so not sure why you wanted other's thoughts, if you were going to react defensively.
We could all disagree all day, but if you think you know whats best, then go for it! You need to listen to your body and do what you feel comfortable with.
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