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landerss
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Just found out I have a high sensitivity to yeast, but I like to take s. boulardii (as well as Culturelle) to prevent c. diff.

Is there anything else that can help prevent c. diff that is not a yeast?

Thanks!

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Unless that is pharmaceutical grade Culterelle... I would get something better.

Theralac is a really good one and would likely protect you from c.diff. No guarantees on any probiotic as the s.boulardi is what is the best protection.

That said, I never took s.boulardi and never got c.diff .. four years of abx treatment. Could be dumb luck, I don't know!

Be sure to follow "the diet."

Excellent probiotics:

VSL#3
http://www.vsl3.com/order.asp

Theralac
www.theralac.com

Whatever you take, take at least 100 CFU's per day. Wish someone had told me that 10 yrs ago!


Candida diet and elimination:
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/021412.html

http://www.candida-albicans-cure.com/candida-albicans-symptoms.html

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Hello Friend
Here is a really good probiotic supplement cultured on biodynamic food sources that I really like. It's called Probiotic All-Flora by New Chapter ORganics. Also contains prebiotic inulin which is really important for feeding and sustaining the friendly bacteria. YOu can get it at healthfood stores or at www.vitacost.com

NOTE: It is dairy-free but does contain soy, if you are allergic it would not be a good idea.

FYI my LLMD said that probiotics:

A) Must be in capsules because the bateria are 90% destroyed by stomach acids.

B) Should be live cultures

Question:

Did you specifically ask your doc about s boulardii as allergenic to you? It's a friendly yeast, not the pathogenic one as Candida is, for example.

I am not a doctor so I am only asking the question out loud, whether or not a person testing sensitive to yeast could still tolerate and maybe even need s boulardii. Because it in fact kills off yeast.

If you did ask I would be very interested to know your doc's thoughts about this. If that's not getting too personal, that is.

Best wishes, CI

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landerss,

Could you describe what your sensitive is like? I also have problems with fermented (mold) intolerance. So, I must avoid foods like cheese, canned tomatoes, sauerkraut, alcohol, vinegar and vinegar-related foods.

I have a problem specifially taking a probiotic called ProbioMAX CFU 100 Billion. It causes the same reaction I get from ingesting the foods I listed above -- red ears, stuffy nose, fatigue, paleness.

But, I also take S. Boulardii, and don't have any problems with that. I'm well aware it's a good yeast. Which really surprised me, considering my intolerances.

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Thanks so much, Chiquita and Lymetoo, for your suggestions! I've been taking a lot of different probiotics and s. boulardii during my 2.5 years on antibiotics, and have avoided c. diff, but hadn't thrown on the big gun brands that you guys suggest. Will give them a try.

My LLMD tested me for food sensitivities via Immunolab 1 Bloodprint, and both types of yeast (Brewer's and Bakers) tested highest of all my sensitivities (+4). I will have to ask my doctor whether s. boulardii is considered to be within those categories, but according to the report, any and all yeast should be avoided. I've had a hunch that s. boulardii has been bothering me, as I seem to get gassy every time I take it.

Thanks!

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Hi Landerss
All intellectual debate aside (can s boulardii actually help your yeast sensitivity because it fights pathogenic yeast??)...

if you get responses from taking the substance, stop it. Listen to your body.

I think the proof is always in the pudding.

But I would suggest you find out for sure whether it really is the S boulardii or some other excipient/binder/filler in the product, or possible milk/other allergenic source, that is bothering you. It could be the other stuff in the product, not the s bouldardii, that is the culprit.

And I could be wrong. I *do* know *for a fact!* that S boulardii is a *friendly* yeast and fights the pathogenic types. So I still suggest it's worth asking your doctor about the possibility that it could (maybe?) even benefit you.

I could be wrong. It would be very interesting to find out, if it's not prying or getting too personal, and if you don't mind sharing that with us. We all could learn from what your doc says, but of course it's up to you and your privacy is fully respected. NEedless to say! :-)

Above and beyond, I have come to realize that medicine is not an exact science. A lot of it is opinion and putting 2+2 together.

Best wishes, CI

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