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I have taken Parastroy for 7 months, and it is still working.
Do I need to switch to another anti-parasitic just to switch it up because I have taken it so long?
If so, what else is really strong? I tried Kroeger brand and it did nothing.
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I have been on Parastroy for longer than seven mos and was wondering the same thing. I decided to stay on it because it is working.
The other brands don't seem to be as strong. I have been on 3 caps each 2 x a day and have noticed i don't need as much now. I am going to continue on as long as it's working.
If you think about it, people with Lyme stay on abx much longer than normaly recommended, so why not antiparasitics.
This Lyme complex we are dealing with is a whole other animal.
Just my 2 cents,
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I think switching it up is a good idea.
I'd go with either Humaworm or Wormwood combo
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I was on Humaworm for ten days until I started Mepron, it seemed pretty strong but then I was put on Paragone which I also thought was strong..so strong I can only handle half doses...but I just started parasitic cleanses and I have lots of parasites.
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I added diatometous earth & boron. It took me a while to work up the Parastroy dose. I dowse everything for dosage. Sometime it indicates to cut it back or take one & not the other. I seem to be having either a herx or die-off. It's hard to tell. It might just be my "new normal"...?
I don't know right now but I figured I'd continue to see if it changes or if the parasite issue can be ruled out. I haven't observed anything obvious in my BM but it's hard to tell for sure. The parasites are good at hiding or they may be microscopic or digested.
So far, the Parastroy seems to be the best anti-parasite combo to me. The diatometous earth adds a new dimension to it. It may be good to switch them around after 6 months. I'll have to cross that bridge when I come to it. I think I'm about 3 months into it.
I've been having alot of shoulder pain. It may be the parasites or something else. I just don't know. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Sparkle,
I have/had shoulder pain from time to time. The parasites are hibernating in the small intestine and can cause a radiating type pain in the shoulder.
I have actually felt them running from the herbs and pushing up into my shoulder. If you're constipated at all the pressure can get worse. Maybe an enema can help relieve it some.
This is my experience at least and it can be very annoying for sure. Hope you get some relief.
Gael
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Thanks Gael! (as always) One day I woke up & had really bad neck & shoulder pain. It's been a couple of weeks now... I feel like something is happening. The parasites may be moving around - it's just hard to tell.
Never even knew where my small intestine was until recently with this anti-parasite work. I guess I just have to keep going with this & see where I end up.
I haven't been constipated. Sometimes, it's the opposite. I felt like someoe sandpapered inside my colon for a while. It felt very raw. It wasn't the herbs. I interpreted it as toxins from a die-off.
I still feel that from time to time. I have had a general increase in pain all over. I don't know for sure if it's a herx or increased fibromyalgia pain.
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Gael.......I am also on 3 caps each of Parastroy. I even thought of taking 4 caps each to blast those suckers!
I also take artemisinin 3 days a week for babs, and that packs another punch to the worms. Seems like I am herxing every single day....feel awful.
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re: feel awful
Me too, jennie46. You aren't alone. Sometimes, I take 2 caps, 2x a day of the Parastroy. I added the diatomateous earth & boron recently as suggested by lymie_in_md.
For me it's been hard to differentiate whether it's a herx or increased fibromyalgia. I just figured I'd continue but you are a little farther along than I am.
I've read that people treat for 1 year or more to get rid of the parasites. Some people switch to drugs or take the anti-parasite drugs, too. I'm trying to stay away from the pharmaceuticals if possible.
Seems like this is something we have to stick with for a while.
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Are you guys still seeing things when you go to the bathroom?
Or is it just an improvement of symptoms that lets you know it's still working?
Is it wrong for me to WANT to see evidence? I almost feel like I will be disappointed if nothing comes out, but at the same time I will have a heart attack if it does. If a big ole tapeworm comes out I will absolutely d.i.e !
(I'm gaining weight though, so maybe that's unlikely to happen?? )
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Yes, in the beginning I saw alot of stuff. Not big worms, though. I had some other type of parasite. I'm not exactly sure what it was. Maybe some kind of fluke? and these things that looked like small furry balls - sort of like pussy willows.
Some of them can be very small or microscopic. They also have different life stages & change forms - so, it's hard to tell what they are exactly. Also, the eggs can be microscopic. So, you might not necessarily see them.
For me it went through stages. Most recently, I saw stuff that may have been threadworms. I don't see them all the time. It's hard to tell even if you get tests done. The parasites can be evasive or may not be in the sample that the lab gets.
Mostly, I've been having increased pain lately. Sometimes, it moves around. I had a burning sensation when I went to the bathroom (bowel movements) for a week or so on & off. I wasn't eating anything spicy, either.
Sometimes, I feel a gurgling sensation in my intestines. I also get loose bowel movements with mucus (sorry to be so graphic but I hope this will help people).
I never had intestinal issues before all of this. If the bowel movements get bad - I back off of the treatment for a few days.
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Parasites can cause a LOT of pain and inflammation when they are dying. I used to put extra cloves in my coffee several yrs ago when I first started the antiparasitic herbs and salt/c.
I saw hundreds of eggs and other parasites in the toilet. I am pretty sure I had the Filarial worm co-infection because I had EVERYTHING pictured on
come out of me. It sometimes takes a lot of herbs for some parasites to let go. Some of the larger red eggs I saw in numbers are pictured on the site.
These herbs are also antifungal and antibacterial. PERSISTENCE is key, and one mos is never enough.
Good luck everyone,
Gael
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I did take albendazole for a couple of months, but went back on Parastroy because it works better.
After 7 months, I still see large worms in the toilet several times per week...probably more info than you wanted to know! It freaks me out.
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quote:Originally posted by glm1111: These herbs are also antifungal and antibacterial.
Oh yay! Didn't know that.
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quote:Originally posted by jennie46: After 7 months, I still see large worms in the toilet several times per week...probably more info than you wanted to know! It freaks me out.
Holy Moly
Were you losing weight? I am GAINING. That's why I question if it's my problem because I was always under the impression you drop weight because they eat everything.
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Sorry for all the posts...
Gael, is it possible that some of these parasites can be seen in the eyes as floaters?
When I look at a bright white backdrop and squint my eyes a certain way, I can see floaters that look like organisms. And some of these parasite photos look exactly like my floaters.
Is it possible my floaters are some of these things?
Crazy, I know. But I see what I see.
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quote:Originally posted by Hambone:
Gael, is it possible that some of these parasites can be seen in the eyes as floaters?
When I look at a bright white backdrop and squint my eyes a certain way, I can see floaters that look like organisms. And some of these parasite photos look exactly like my floaters.
Is it possible my floaters are some of these things?
Crazy, I know. But I see what I see.
I think floaters are organisms... whether that's babesia or lyme... I am not sure. I swear, I have seen spirochetes.
My dog gets lots of eye discharge when she is the sickest. She has lyme and bartonella. I keep her well with bar-1 and ledum. I believe that discharge is some kind of detoxing.
I wonder what would happen if we looked at that discharge under a microscope?
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I'm officially freaked! I had something on my toilet paper the other day that I thought was strange and wouldn't have thought twice about it , but did after reading this and checking out the lyme parasite photos. It was long and pretty much clear like mucus. Just one more thing to discuss with LLMD.
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quote:Originally posted by momlyme:
quote:Originally posted by Hambone:
Gael, is it possible that some of these parasites can be seen in the eyes as floaters?
When I look at a bright white backdrop and squint my eyes a certain way, I can see floaters that look like organisms. And some of these parasite photos look exactly like my floaters.
Is it possible my floaters are some of these things?
Crazy, I know. But I see what I see.
I swear, I have seen spirochetes.
Me too.
And I've seen things that look like the picture of a candida cell ( on the Wikipedia page for candida ), and I saw something that looks like that Horseshoe parasite thing in the photo link Gael has. Some are dark, some are transparent. Some are straight, some are squiggly and all tied up in itself..like a knot. Some look like they have dragon heads.
And they ALL slowly started coming into view as I got sick, and the sicker I am, the more I see them.
I don't dare tell other people this stuff for fear they will think I'm .
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I read an article that the eye floaters are actually pieces of the inner eye which break off inside your eye. I think some of the cells inside of the eye break off after they die. It's not bugs. It could be wrong but I'll see if I can find the article.
I used to think they were parasites, too - but no. Not everything is a parasite.
I think if there's an irritation within the digestive tract, it can cause extra mucus. Parasites can cause this. I have also seen stuff that looks like biofilms with small specks that look like some kind of eggs.
Sometimes stuff in BMs looks like parasite materials but may just be food particles, fibers, etc. but sometimes it really is some kind of parasite debris.
Usually, if you try an herbal anti-parasite combo & it makes you feel sick, it's a good sign you have to work on a parasite issue. Just my experience. You may have to take it a few weeks but sometimes it happens sooner.
I agree, we need to take these herbs longer than 1 month. I don't know about the drugs for parasites. Some of them seem pretty toxic.
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I absolutely feel that for me the eye floaters and the squiggly things I have seen are parasites.
Here's why. After starting the salt/c they were coming out of my nose and eyes. They were small white wormy dried up parasites.
The ones coming out of my eyes were much smaller (like grit) but in the clear shape of a parasite. I am still experiencing this to a much smaller degree.
Don't mean to freak anyone out, but I really believe that parasites play a HUGE factor in this disease, and getting rid of them is a key factor in getting better.
Gael
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Gael - it's possible you had both parasites & the non-parasite floaters...(?) The non-parasite floaters happen as we age in general.
I stopped the herbs for a couple of days & my shoulder pain was slightly less. Seems that it's some kind of die-off symptom. Thanks for the encouragement!
I've had other kinds of weird symptoms since doing this extended parasite cleanse. It must be related. I'm keeping up with it. I do think we need more than 30 days on with these herbs.
My skin has been breaking out in specific places. I'm close to 50 & getting pimples... LOL
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Hambone,
Wow - thanks for that candida pic
I went to wikipedia and that's exactly what I see as floaters as well.
I do think it's candida, parasites, bacteria.
For me the floaters were at their worst during my worst Lyme days.
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It wouldn't surprise me if the floaters are some kind of parasite stuff. The way the medical establishment is about parasites - it wouldn't surprise me.
re : Some look like they have dragon heads.
Quite an imagination! LOL Maybe reptilian DNA (just joking...)? Sometimes, you just have to laugh (as John Lennon once said).
Some young folks have no idea who the Beatles were these days.
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lol c'mon - who doesn't know the Beatles? : )
Even if the youngsters are learning about em from video games (Guitar Hero: The Beatles)
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My sister ran into a young guy recently who had no idea what Sargeant Pepper was or who the Beatles were... (sorry to get off the topic)
I'm sort of glad I was born in the 1960's. Every generation has it's positive things but it was an interesting time back then. Not all good but some great music from 1960's through the 90's.
There's still great music now but it's kind of derivitive in some ways. It's not as focused.
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Hambone...
I have lost 20 lbs. and cannot gain any weight back. I look horrible...5'6" and 105 lbs. I do think it is due to the parasites.
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Hambone and jennie,
Weight gain and weight loss are both on the list for parasite symtoms. Google it and check the list at Humaworm.
Gael
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sparkle,
Completely agree about music. It's lost it's soul. Too commercialized.
Ironically enough though I think there are more GREAT instrumental players today than there were 30-40 yrs ago.
Most just don't have the creative mind (or drugs I guess lol) to put it all together.
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sparkle the 60s were a wonderful time for music. But i would argue that the music is more derived / less creative / valuable now than then. music evolves. genres evolve. musicians innovate. always. it is happening now, just you won't find it on the radio. Bill Monroe once said, "learn the music, learn the timing and make it your own." lotsa folk are doing just that.
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2 theories...
1. Does anyone feel awful in the AM or have trouble sleeping? My thoughts are that some parasites may be noctournal & reeking havoc at night. That may be why I'm feeling so crappy & I can't even wake up until after noon. I usually feel better in a hour or so after getting up.
2. I have been dowsing the Parastroy & I also added boron & ditonateous earth. I've been having alot of pain, mostly in my shoulders, neck, into the ribs. Some days the dowsing tells me to back off on the herbs/supplements for a day or 2. Maybe this "pulsing" is helpful?
I was just reading that Dr. B says he was able to get better from Lyme through pulsing abx...
Just some thoughts.
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About music (sorry to digress). Yes, there is still some great music. I love the radio show Echoes & WFUV has some good stuff. I also am quite fond of jazz.
The time was different & there were many icons back in the late 20th century. I just don't see that today. Lady GaGa & Adele just don't cut it for me. I saw Grayson Chance on TV & I was amazed but it's not the same as what happened in the late 20th century.
Wonderfully trained musicians graduate from music school every year but there's somthing more that makes a great artist or icon.
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