randibear
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as ya'll know couldn't do the humaworm. too tough and i didn't want to end up in the er. so i quit.
is there anything more gentle? not as strong??
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In Paul Pitchford's book Healing with Whole Foods, he has a protocol for parasite treatment. Excellent, excellent book by the way, all around. But you may be able to get it from the library before spending the money....
Linda Rector Page ND has a page about parasites (bullet points, so a fair amount of info on one page) in her book Healthy Healing.
I still think Pitchford's book has better info, but Page's book is also available as reference in healthfood stores nation wide.
According to Pitchford: Black walnut, garlic, sour and bitter flavors (sauerkraut, kimchee, lemons, et al) plus a Candida diet and probiotics can all be helpful and much more gentle than the stronger artemesias et al. Pitchford writes that people with a run-down constitution may be sort of blown away by the stronger, bitter herbs. It may be too much for those of us who are weakened, he says. Another step in his protocol which even I would be less than willing to do: Chew a handful of raw rice every morning. Eee gadz! He says this is really important, to scrub any parasite's eggs from the intestinal tract and prevent clinging. He said the protocol won't work if this step is missed. Oy gevalt! LOL.
Enemas of black walnut extract with fresh-squeezed garlic could be a nice support too.
See also this article, HCL may be an important protector:
quote: Stomach acid kills most of the bacteria and parasites that are swallowed along with meals. Strong suppression of stomach acid increases the risk of ... www.healthy.net/scr/column.aspx?Id=60
randibear
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raw rice? egads, i have diverticulitis. i can't imagine what that would do.
anybody try that hulda clark or parastory?
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I've been taking Gaia Herbs Para-Shield and so far have had only mild discomfort with it. I don't think we're gonna get away from complete discomfort when you're on this stuff, but I believe this is a bit milder than Hulda Clark or some of the other ones.
Maybe CI can chime in on this and tell me if I'm right or wrong. Would like to get your input on this product CI.
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Hi Randibear I am laughing out loud too. Sorry about your diverticulitis fyi!
For anybody else who is reading this, I just had to try it myself to see if I could stand it.
I took a smidgeon of raw rice and chomped. Falteringly, eyes closed to slits, aaaak....
Actually it wasn't that bad at all. It tasted sort of like extra crunchy popcorn, with a similar warm taste. And the grains broke up more readily than I would have thought.
Just passing that on.
LOL....hahahahaha! But telling the truth too...
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Hi Gary I just looked it up and it is very well formulated, as is typical of GAIA. Bravo to them as usual! Fyi they also test their herbs for heavy metals et al, for anybody who is interested.
It looks to me like those who are sensitive to the stronger bitter herbs like artemesia may not do so well with it, in a similar way to with the humaworm product. The idea of using berberine herbs, coptis in this case, is really a good idea.
Berberines are bitter yellow alkaloids found in goldenseal, barberry, coptis et al. It has antibiotic and antimicrobial properties, and the bitterness is something the parasites hate. They also are soothing to digestive linings fyi so they are a good choice for many people with digestive inflammation. (Others with digestive inflammation may be sensitive to berberines, it's trial and error).
Metagenics makes a tablet of mixed berberines called Candi Bactin BR. Very well formulated. This could be useful here. In and of themselves the berberines may not kill off most parasites, but they are specifically used for Candida however. Paired up with other anti-parasitic herbs they could be very useful however.
Randibear, you might read up about oregano oil or thyme oil, black walnut extract, and garlic. Because (according to Pitchford) parasites are becoming more resistant, and because herbs are seen to work best in clusters, one of these alone probably will not work, a blend would be important. I think it's wise to start with one at a time to test for tolerance, then come up with your own mix (well researched for effectiveness).
GSE also would work very well, but it is strong like the artemesias. Buhner writes that it is much like mainstream abx requiring a followup of probiotics because it will wipe out friendly and unfriendly bacteria each alike, he writes. He says that other herbs won't do that.
ALWAYS USE ESSENTIAL OILS IN TINY LITTLE DOSES!!! Just one drop per cup of hot water will do. Okay two is fine. No more than gives you a good taste. Do not exceed instructions on the bottle. Remember: Essential oils are POWERFUL and can be in some cases extremely toxic. One ounce of pennyroyal oil can kill, several other oils are in this category too (wintergreen in particular, it's a great pain reliever but has to be used very carefully. Not for lay use. Herbal companies know how to dilute the dosages to safe levels in multi-herb formulas, don't use this oil yourself). Others could have side effects if over-used. Intelligent use of essential oils can be very beneficial however. Follow the directions on the bottle and be sure to read up about the oils first. Essential oils are secreted by the plants as anti-microbials and can be very useful in these situations. Some of the essential oils are non-toxic completely, and others only have side effects if over-used. THe right dosage can be very beneficial. Read up carefully.
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For anyone sensitive when taking any antiparasitic herbs, just open the capsules into some applesauce and take a little at a time through the day. That way you can stave off any major reaction. You can cover and refigerate the rest.
Gael
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randibear
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is hulda clark or natura a parasite cleaning type of thang?
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