canefan17
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So I've learned over the years that Candida acts as a sponge in the body (soaking in metals, toxins, ammonia, etc)
Some believe that if someone has mercury toxicity the candida overgrowth is even a defense mechanism to protect the cells from metal damage (because the Candida absorbs the metals and retains them)
My question is - would it be reasonable to assume Candida absorbs and retains bacteria and viruses? (like parasites do?)
And even further - would it be safe to assume that if you go after Candida you need to be prepared to treat whatever is dumped?
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I started putting this all together because of a post GiGi put up last November called the Babushka...
In answer to your question, yes. We experienced this in treating parasites, heavy metals reared their head. In treating heavy metals, fungi roared HERE I AM!!!! Treating fungi, heavy metals and parasites... Bartonella came out hard and heavy.
I feel it is a delicate balancing act. Much like the juggler who balances plates on the end of sticks... spin one then spin the next one... keep them spinning or they will fall!
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Very interesting momlyme. I went after candida and at my last appt with one of my docs was told it wasn't an issue for me anymore. Before that appt...maybe about a week prior I think, my bart symptoms starting getting worse.
I kept wondering why I was feeling worse since I was feeling better on the abx....even though I was only around two months in.
At that last appt, I was told I ha an issue with parasites, so I started treating them. And guess what? I feel worse, but it doesn't feel like die off from the parasites. At least, I don't think it is. Seems more like my bart symptoms are getting worse.
I guess it could be a combination of everything, but after reading what you stated, I wonder if my bart symptoms are worse b/c the candida is gone.
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My question is - would it be reasonable to assume Candida absorbs and retains bacteria and viruses? (like parasites do?)
And even further - would it be safe to assume that if you go after Candida you need to be prepared to treat whatever is dumped?
- I think that is why so many are not getting well..... they are full of candida and won't make progress until they get it under control. If it is under control, then the abx can handle what is dumped.
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James1979
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Then wouldn't yeast-killer pills like Diflucan be just as important as taking abx? Is there a downside to this?
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Wow, this is all beginning to make sense (fascinating)!
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yeah, but how to convince the doctors that it even exists....all i can get is one measly difulcan pill.
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Quoting:"I think that is why so many are not getting well..... they are full of candida and won't make progress until they get it under control. If it is under control, then the abx can handle what is dumped.
No, they are not getting permanently better, because they are not reducing the toxic metal load and the parasite load. As long as the body is stuck with metals that are hindering everything, the body will create more fungi - no matter how "yeastfree" your diet is. The body guards itself by creating fungi, which of course means even more added neurotoxins than the already weakened body is unable to cope with. Reduce the toxic metals and chemicals alongside dealing with the parasite load and you will free yourself of the most destructive neurotoxins.
Parasites eat you alive unless you treat them, causing multiple, huge problems.
Momlyme, so glad you got the message.
Remember, the Babuschka events will repeat themselves: parasite die-off with metals testing, fungi, etc., will go on until the parasites are brought under some sort of control wherever they are. That can take many months, but at least you are lightening the load.
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canefan17
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This is why I like the idea of MMS. (orally and enemas)
It hits parasites and there's even quite a bit of support that it neutralizes mercury.
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How much MMS do you take (orally)?
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canefan17
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Jim Humble recommends working up to 3 drops every hour for 8 hours
(so 24 total in a day)
This is the MMS 1000 protocol.
There are many Lyme patients who do the MMS enemas and pass all sorts of worms.
I've talked to 3 people who've experienced this.
2 I met in person and 1 over the phone
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Catgirl
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It works even if you're on abx (or do you have to quit the abx first)?
Do you also take supplements like zinc or magnesium at the same time (was just reading something about KPU)?
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Catgirl
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Wow, I just saw it MMS 1000 protocol on Youtube. I wonder why you can't have vit C? Vit C gives you collagen.
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canefan17
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You just can't hav Vit C within 3 hours of the MMS dosage.
Vit C is an anti-oxidant and it will neutralize these oxidative effects of MMS.
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Catgirl
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Has anyone taken MMS (miracle mineral supplement) while on abx or were you off abx when you took it?
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MichaelTampa
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I took it briefly while on abx. It was not very helpful for me.
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