MDW005
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Yes, how do we know if we have bart? I do not have an llmd, but I read and people say sore feet is a bart symptom.
My feet have been in so much pain the last couple weeks and I cannot hardly stand on them. Then the dreaded roll out of bed in the mornings knowing the instant I put my feet to the floor, I will hobble and cling to walls to take the weight off of them. It is a pain that keeps me from wanting to stand or walk. And I have a high tollerance.
I do not have any other symptoms that would make me think I have bart. Does lyme create foot pain also? yes, I know there is much in "search"....much. Can anyone now give me some idea? and if it might be bart, whats the first thing I should try that is not a antibiotic. Thanks.
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Welcome to Club Bart! Pain is often worse when you rise in the morning. I can delete much of my pain with my rife machine. I also use abx. Might want to do a search on here for natural treatments of bart.
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In his "Healing Lyme" book, Stephen Buhner says Japanese knotweed will work against Bart.
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MDW005
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Well dang! Here I was hoping to wear high heels soon.
The pain is like this all day not just in the morning....more so in my left foot. But then I try and take the pressure off that foot and walk on tip toes with the right, causes ache in the arch of the right foot.
I tried detox baths, only temporary relieves, slightly. I have tried olive leaf, this gives me a horrible burning headache. Just can't seem to get ahead of this.
I will do some research on the knotweed. if you know anything else let me know. thanks.
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MDW005
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Has anyone tried the Byron White Herbal Formulas for Bart? If so, do you have any feed back on how good the product was for you. Would appreciate any thoughts before I go spending money. Do you think herbs will beat bart?
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Sorry, I do not think that herbs alone can beat Bartonella. They seem to be too weak in my experience.
I did try A-Bart, 20drops BID for several months. It did not cause a noticeable symptom flare or any symptom relief. I hope that it did help somehow.
I've read here that others have had a good response with Byron White formulas. It may something you have to try to see if it will help you.
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My LLMD treats symptoms and say definitly painful feet are Bart.
I at first even had surgery for what I thought was plantar fascitis.
It did not help at all. The foot pain is the worst thing because it caused me to have to give up my job of 5 years because I could not stand on my feet.
I can only tell you what I do to soothe the pain. Epsom salt and peroxide foot baths help and my favorite thing is a frozen bottle of water to rub my feet on.
It feel wonderful especially after walking or standing.
I know the pain is horrible and I try to explain it to people and they just don't understand the extent of the pain that we deal with day to day.
I hope this helps some I know it gives me some relief.
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Salt? C protocol took the pain away for me after the 3rd day. Stayed on it continuously for 5 months after that.
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Hi MDW,
I'd like to add that the pediatric LLMD, Dr. C in PA, says foot pain all day, not just in AM is Babesia.
I had major foot pain, in fact plantaar fasciitis, which went away w/ Bart treatment. But I still had pain on and off thru the day. Then I started treating Babesia and Bart and my foot pain went away altogether.
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MDW005
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needhelp... thanks, I have done the epson salt/peroxide and I have these ice paks I use, but they don't really help much. I am trying to find out how to rid my problem at this point.
dyna...not real sure about the salt C protocol, I am having swelling issues...will the salt C make me retain more water?
17hens... bart and babs? but I do not have anxiety, panic or depression, but if I have the possiblity of having both of these coinfections and struggling to fight them off...Then I might start getting depressed. this is becoming so mind boggling and could drive one nuts. Now I feel lost as to what to do and where to begin.
I have much research to do and probably many questions with help understanding on this coinfection stuff. I am battling cancer right now and was wandering if I can take anything herbal while still in treatment. I have another month treating cancer and I did not have feet problems (I did, just not this severe) prior to chemo. Might this just be from therapy or do you think treatment has brought out a coinfection? Sorry...do not mean to be complicated.
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MDW,
I am so sorry that you are going through all of this.
I will pray for your total healing dear friend.
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MDW005
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Thanks Dekrator, maybe He will answer your prayers. You do have pretty prayer words He might hear.
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