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canefan17
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I'm not much for conspiracies - but what's the deal with this...

http://www.elenacook.org/lymebw_accidental_release_info.html

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trust in GOD

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I'd believe anything. Nothing could cause such suffering be easy to cure, hard to catch.

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I get so aggravated reading that stuff. Very murky. But really, the important question to ask now is? how do we undo it? How can it be cured?
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I also think it is important to find out how to cure or undo Lyme but in order to do this we have to know how and WHY it became what it did so that we can reverse it. This can have to do with strengthening our weakened immune systems and by also discovering WHY we are being blocked in our efforts for real diagnosis and treatment.

Acknowledgement, proper diagnosis and treatment of this disease is becoming a world wide problem and it is not just due to ignorance.

Intentional Field testing and the monitoring of an epidemic....as in The Tuskeegee experiment may be one of the critical pieces of the puzzle. We can't say for sure that this is what happened but there is a definite need to address it.

Part of the answer may also be drug company profits off of symptomatic treatments and chronic illness. There are probably many pieces to this puzzle and just one explanation will not cover it all.

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this doesnt surprise me in the least.

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I've often thought that a full disclosure of how they spliced parasites together might be helpful in determining how to treat us. Guess we're not important enough for that.
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They will never admit to biowarfare. It's against the Geneva convention, I believe.

Jesse Ventura did a good show about Plum Island. It's on Youtube if you want to watch it.

I think it's important to have a doctor who consideres this to be an issue. At least Dr. K admits it is a consideration. Otherwise, you just keep going around in circles with treatment. Some people get lucky & get well, though. I guess it depends on length of illness, genetics & how many other pathogens you are infected with.

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Generally, biowarfare agents are meant to kill quickly. Lyme kills slowly and doesn't always kill. So, it is not the best agent. There are much better ones.
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No offense but that's not necessarily true. There are certain advantages of a "slow kill" weapon. If I have time - I'll post some links.
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Here's some background from a university class on microbiology. Keep in mind it's about 10 yeras old...

http://www.slic2.wsu.edu:82/hurlbert/micro101/pages/101biologicalweapons.html

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more -

USE OF BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS
EDWARD M. EITZEN, JR., M.D., M.P.H., FACEP, FAAP

http://dead-planet.net/chemical-terrorism/med_cbw/Ch20.pdf

Biological weapons may, in fact, be much more
effective if used against unsuspecting, unprotected,
and nonimmune civilian populations than against
a fast-moving military organization. This was certainly
true when the Japanese attempted to use biological
weapons against Chinese and Soviet troops
in World War II. The objectives of a terrorist group
may not be typical military objectives; therefore,
biological weapons may be better suited to their
purposes.15

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There's really alot of information on the internet if you look. I only spent 1/2 hour & I found tons of info.

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quote:
Originally posted by lou:
Generally, biowarfare agents are meant to kill quickly. Lyme kills slowly and doesn't always kill. So, it is not the best agent. There are much better ones.

Not if the intent isn't to kill.

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lou
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So you are saying the govt intentionally is using biowarfare agents against the public. And that lyme is that agent? I think this is baloney.
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Some say lyme is the perfect weapon, because it doesn't kill, just incapacitates, so we have to expend much energy taking care of the sick.

Anyone sick with lyme drains the system.

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Agree, kill is not the intent!

If the truth were to be known this is just scratching the surface.

It is very sad that there is so much evil and that these highly intelligent individuals are using there skills to change mankind for the worse

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serious documentary about chemtrails:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K9rXydMmfw&feature=fvwrel (part 1)

The main researcher on promoting chemtrails for control of the climate says, in a conference:

'We haven't done anything (any research) serious on aluminium and there could be something terrible that we find tomorrow, that we haven't look at it".

If they spray aluminum, tons of aluminum in the air, without studying its health effects, what else aren't they doing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC5zf0uJ678&feature=related

Aluminium and Barium found in massive amounts, where does it come from?

Beautiful Mt Shasta in California with 61,000ppm of aluminum. The US governement says safe levels of aluminum is 1,000!!!

http://educate-yourself.org/ct/

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There's alot of evidence for eugenics programs throughout history. You just have to do the research. I could post alot of links here & do the research for you but it's best if you do it yourself if you are interested.

We are being assulted on a daily basis by all kinds of toxic stuff. Why would humans continually put toxic materials on the planet where they live? We all have to live here. We know the dangers - yet, it's being done every day more & more - non-stop.

Chemtrails, genetically modified food, Fukishima + all the radiation released in the Middle East, fluoride in the water, pesticides, estrogen disrupting chemicals - I mean how long can we live through all of this?

Not even mentioning the really sinister stuff going on... I don't believe that the large companies & the people involved in making decisions don't know about what they are doing. They have to breathe the air & drink the water, too.

It's not just about money. Money is part of it but there has to be other reasons why this is happening. This is effecting our epigenetics. It's not just a coincidence.

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Sparkle, you need to see a psychiatrist about your obsession with this subject. You have been repeating this stuff for years now. You have made your point, so give it a rest.

Find something more productive to do.

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It has often confused me how the wood tick at the local lake, which happens to be about 5 miles from a level 4 lab, was infected with borrelia, babesia duncani, ehrlichia, BLO and heaven knows what else.

Hunters here blame the wolf for the decimation of the elk herds. No one even knows that Lyme disease exists here. How does Lyme disease affect the wild animals? I suspect it would weaken them making them easy prey.

One wildlife rehab person I know says she has studied the effects of pesticides and herbicides for decades and believes it is causing the male deer, elk and bison to be born with deformed genitals and jaws, making it harder for them to survive and reproduce.

There are plenty of crazy scientist in the world. Look at the madman that sent out anthrax letter because he was angry they were cutting back on his funding! There are also evil people and they are not confined to what we consider to be evil regimes.

There has been plenty of evil recorded in our history such as lacing cereal with radiation and feeding it to retarded children or giving black men syphilis - experiments to see what happens.

Health insurance costs are escalating so quickly we can't keep up with it. Everyone is getting sick with SOMETHING - cancer, diabetes, heart disease. Lyme disease is just part of the epidemic - I doubt it was intentionally released by upper levels of the government but now that it is out there, the government sure doesn't care.

I don't speculate one way or the other but it would not surprise me if it was weaponized in the lab (maybe the one right here) and released by someone. The hospital does not know about lyme disease here but the lab employees sure do. A friend's husband is an entomologist there and he was warned about it when they moved here for his job.

Although I have been friends with that person for 4 years and asked her several times to ask her husband what he knows about the strains that are here and what else I might possibly be infected with, she will never answer my question - I usually don't see or hear from her for months after a new request.

I used to give her kids free riding lessons - for years, but she could not ask her husband to give me life saving information about what I am dealing with. Top secret I bet.

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Wow Lou, that was pretty harsh.. I found it pretty interesting.

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I agree with Sparkle. There is much evidence that Lyme disease is of interest to biowarfare researchers. The use of ticks and other insects as a method of disabling populations has a very definite history and cannot be denied. I have noticed that in the past Lou has tried to discourage any talk concerning this subject.Why shouldn't this important subject be discussed?

Disabling agents are considered much more effective at disabling a nation than ones which kill suddenly. Here's why http://lymesentinel.blogspot.com/2008/10/discreet-methods-of-biological-warfare.html

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If you have time on your hands, read this:
("Journal of Homeland Security" interview)

http://www.homelandsecurity.org/journal/Default.aspx?oid=2&ocat=4

Also,read:(transcript of a PBS TV interview),particularly,the interviewer's question that begins: "NOVA:How would that kind of superbug work?"

Alibek and Popov were comrades.....

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/bioterror/biow_popov.html

Any questions?

Joe

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I totally believe this theory. Why else would one little bug carry so many diseases? Our government is so screwed up. They don't care a damn about our lives.

There is poison chemicals in our food, environment, drugs, almost all beauty products, cleaning products ect... They test it and say "Yup that's carcinogenic, let's use it!" It's sad but its up to us to change this stuff.

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I don't know, Lou...? I think you are being insulting to me. Should I dignify you with a reply, even? I think the moderators should say something about this.

Nothing I have posted is unsubstantiated. Seems alot of people agree. I find it in poor taste to continually insult me. If you would do even 1/10 of the research I do - you might be a little less ignorant.

Don't lash out at me just because your paradigm of reality is being questioned.

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A SHORT HISTORY OF US GOVERNMENT RESPECT FOR HUMAN LIFE

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/biowar.html


Biological Warfare Weapons Development and Testing: A Chronology by Donald C. Scott

http://www.whale.to/m/scott8.html


U.S. Law Allows Testing of Chemicals and Biological Agents on "Civilian Population"

http://www.healthymoneyvine.com/support-files/chemicals_etc_testing_humans_and_environment_us_law.pdf

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I think this comment is disrespectful from Lou.

Sparkle is only putting info that has been posted dozens, if not hundreds of times in LN. She's not the first, that's for sure. It appears almost every month in a thread or another.

Dr. K. and other lyme doctors also believe Borrelia has been manipulated in labs and escaped to the environment.

What is aluminium in totally poisonous amounts doing in the whole US soils if not sprayed in the air for some 'unknown' reasons?

There are thousands of ex US soldiers fighting The US army and the government after being disabled for a reason or another.

Look into Gulf War Syndrome, for example.

Your government is doing awful things all over the planet. They are dumping your radioactive garbage in their made up wars, in the form of depleted uranium, causing deformities and infant death everywhere the US decides to make wars.

Your army comes, dump RADIOACTIVE garbage on the local population that will stay for thousands of years, go back home, and harm your own soldiers who are left without any support when they go back home.

Some people just don't want to see.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium

Lou, do you watch Fox Channel and CNN to get your daily news?

You just watch and read mainstream media?

Don't complain about the IDSA then. They are mainstream.

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Sparkle, you are right. There are evil forces beyond our imagination that want to do us harm. Most people I talk to have no clue what is going on around them and it is sad. They won't realize it until it is too late!

If you want to post the links, I would sure like the read.

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